The new home for the IMVU Community is help.imvu.com. For more information, check out this article.

Creators copying entire shops???
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    IMVU Forum Index -> Content Creator General Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
252red VIP Club Member 18+ Age Verified

252red <a href='/vip_club/'><img src='/catalog/web_images/vip_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='VIP Club Member' /></a><!-- VIP Club Member Icon --> <a href='/age_verify/index/'><img src='/common/img/icons/age_verified_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='18+ Age Verified'/></a> 's page


Joined: 22 Feb 2010
Posts: 6
Location: USA - NC

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:12 pm    Post subject: Creators copying entire shops??? Reply with quote

How would you feel and what could you do if you found a creator with every derivable product in your shop and all of your icons? I recently found someone that just joined the creator program to copy my derivable items in my catalog including my icons.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
Aislinn VIP Club Member 18+ Age Verified

Aislinn <a href='/vip_club/'><img src='/catalog/web_images/vip_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='VIP Club Member' /></a><!-- VIP Club Member Icon --> <a href='/age_verify/index/'><img src='/common/img/icons/age_verified_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='18+ Age Verified'/></a> 's page


Joined: 13 Jul 2013
Posts: 664
Location: USA

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It happens. That's why I don't set my products to derivable. You can't do much about ZCDs, but you can take the appropriate steps to combat the icon theft. Also, you might want to remove the celeb images from some of your stuff before you go that route.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
WickedAngel

WickedAngel's page


Joined: 31 May 2009
Posts: 16884
Location: Australia

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are your items derivable..Yes from what I've seen....


Did they derive off of you.....if so, you got/get paid...even if they don't change anything. If they didn't derive off of you, DMCA them.


They are using your icons...This bit is DMCAable.....but as others previously have said, if they have ZCDed off of you and are using your icons, consider it free advertising to you.....but it's upto you whether you want to DMCA them.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
Shiva 18+ Age Verified

Shiva <a href='/age_verify/index/'><img src='/common/img/icons/age_verified_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='18+ Age Verified'/></a> 's page


Joined: 22 Aug 2006
Posts: 1026
Location: Germany

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of newbie creators do this! You shouldn't worry too much if the products are derived from yours. Regarding the catalog icon, you should send a private message to the user about this.
Personally, I wouldn't be bothered if the derivation was from one of my products.

_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
4u

4u's page


Joined: 20 Nov 2006
Posts: 7230
Location: Australia

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are ZCDing you because your prices are too low and they know they just have to drop the same product in a different catalogue section to make bank from them.

watch, learn, replicate

The icons, message the developer first and ask to change, then DMCA is your only option.

I suggest just improving your own logo on your icons, like I prefer if zcd developer's use my icons.. more advertising for me and my customers instantly know where it came from.
_________________

Developers Create The Easy 123 Way! Buy Textures For IMVU! FREE SAMPLES.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
iBYTES VIP Club Member 18+ Age Verified

iBYTES <a href='/vip_club/'><img src='/catalog/web_images/vip_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='VIP Club Member' /></a><!-- VIP Club Member Icon --> <a href='/age_verify/index/'><img src='/common/img/icons/age_verified_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='18+ Age Verified'/></a> 's page


Joined: 14 Mar 2014
Posts: 120
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you set your product as derivable...it is legal for them to derive from it AND you still get paid your derivation fee.

You can file a DMCA for the icon and then let DMCA and imvu start their take down process.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
Notorious VIP Club Member 18+ Age Verified

Notorious <a href='/vip_club/'><img src='/catalog/web_images/vip_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='VIP Club Member' /></a><!-- VIP Club Member Icon --> <a href='/age_verify/index/'><img src='/common/img/icons/age_verified_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='18+ Age Verified'/></a> 's page


Joined: 02 Jan 2006
Posts: 19996
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: Creators copying entire shops??? Reply with quote

252red wrote:
How would you feel and what could you do if you found a creator with every derivable product in your shop and all of your icons? I recently found someone that just joined the creator program to copy my derivable items in my catalog including my icons.


Wrap your arms around them and give them a big hug!

They are marketing YOUR products and keeping your brand intact.

I welcome this behavior because IMVU approved it.

Yes - you can have them take down your icons - but why? Brand your icons...get more advertising Smile


You get paid for everything they sell....it's win-win.


p.s. I LOVE PLAYING IN IMVU WITH YOUR PRODUCTS!
_________________
You can now find me at the PixelPusher Community Forums!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
252red VIP Club Member 18+ Age Verified

252red <a href='/vip_club/'><img src='/catalog/web_images/vip_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='VIP Club Member' /></a><!-- VIP Club Member Icon --> <a href='/age_verify/index/'><img src='/common/img/icons/age_verified_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='18+ Age Verified'/></a> 's page


Joined: 22 Feb 2010
Posts: 6
Location: USA - NC

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think my products are set to a reasonable price especially with all the changes with the pricing of credits and the removal of resellers. I'm not trying to be greedy. Creating here is something I love to do and I enjoy seeing my products used by others.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
kiticartel 18+ Age Verified

kiticartel <a href='/age_verify/index/'><img src='/common/img/icons/age_verified_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='18+ Age Verified'/></a> 's page


Joined: 05 Jan 2010
Posts: 927
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always bump up the price a little and wind up making a little more from the people who derived from you... but the main thing I would say is brand your images a bit better. I know that some of the icons have your avatar name but not all of them do so its probably a good bet that those ones will be stolen. Also if you do want to go the DMCA route... make sure none of your images are copywrited themselves.
_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
AeonDeloren VIP Club Member 18+ Age Verified

AeonDeloren <a href='/vip_club/'><img src='/catalog/web_images/vip_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='VIP Club Member' /></a><!-- VIP Club Member Icon --> <a href='/age_verify/index/'><img src='/common/img/icons/age_verified_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='18+ Age Verified'/></a> 's page


Joined: 12 Mar 2011
Posts: 1537
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if your icons have your name and branding on them, its free advertising. I'd still be annoyed that they didn't ask permission before snagging the icons, but overall, its not that bad.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
Ravens VIP Club Member 18+ Age Verified

Ravens <a href='/vip_club/'><img src='/catalog/web_images/vip_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='VIP Club Member' /></a><!-- VIP Club Member Icon --> <a href='/age_verify/index/'><img src='/common/img/icons/age_verified_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='18+ Age Verified'/></a> 's page


Joined: 19 Sep 2011
Posts: 297
Location: China

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw a person with a WHOLE catty of just derivable stuff from other creators and they set their products really high and on derivable too..
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
MilkyLele VIP Club Member

MilkyLele <a href='/vip_club/'><img src='/catalog/web_images/vip_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='VIP Club Member' /></a><!-- VIP Club Member Icon -->'s page


Joined: 20 Feb 2012
Posts: 1
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see where your coming from.
But it's actually not so bad. You still get payed when people derive your products. Also, you get more advertising! So look at it that way. ^^
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
WickedAngel

WickedAngel's page


Joined: 31 May 2009
Posts: 16884
Location: Australia

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kiticartel wrote:
You could always bump up the price a little and wind up making a little more from the people who derived from you... but the main thing I would say is brand your images a bit better. I know that some of the icons have your avatar name but not all of them do so its probably a good bet that those ones will be stolen. Also if you do want to go the DMCA route... make sure none of your images are copywrited themselves.


Kiti we can't change the price of our derivables once there has been a derivation though unfortunately.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
252red VIP Club Member 18+ Age Verified

252red <a href='/vip_club/'><img src='/catalog/web_images/vip_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='VIP Club Member' /></a><!-- VIP Club Member Icon --> <a href='/age_verify/index/'><img src='/common/img/icons/age_verified_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='18+ Age Verified'/></a> 's page


Joined: 22 Feb 2010
Posts: 6
Location: USA - NC

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea I guess it is free advertising. I changed a product icon the other day and I guess this person thought it was a new product and derived it again. Now they have two of the same product in their shop. Lmao...hilarious
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
Chulah 18+ Age Verified

Chulah <a href='/age_verify/index/'><img src='/common/img/icons/age_verified_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='18+ Age Verified'/></a> 's page


Joined: 19 Dec 2011
Posts: 672
Location: Poland

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xvxTINAxvx wrote:
If you set your product as derivable...it is legal for them to derive from it AND you still get paid your derivation fee.

You can file a DMCA for the icon and then let DMCA and imvu start their take down process.


Pretty much. If it is derivable then you cant do anything. But if they are taking your icons you can DMCA them.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
Display posts from previous:   
Don't want to see these ads? Join the VIP Program!

Don't want to see these ads? Join the VIP Program!

Hide ads? Get VIP!
Post new topic   Reply to topic    IMVU Forum Index -> Content Creator General Discussion All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next
Page 1 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


 FAQFAQ   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister  ProfileProfile   Log in for private messagesLog in for private messages 

Search the forums:


Powered by phpBB