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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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*Resized as it was too small for my agig eyes Smile

The bolded part - I cant find the post but I remember Todd posting that there was no plans to do away with the Client at any point, that it was very much key to Imvus long term strategy. Was it the post giving us an outline of the current state of play and asking us for suggestions on changes we'd like to see?

I will be desperately searching for that post...if only to have a last straw of hope to cling to. But, so many times we've been told that "IMVU has no plans..." only to then have them turn around and do it (and without much, if any, notice).

I do remember Todd asking what changes we'd like to see in the creator program...that was the same thread where he said he was taking creating out of the client.


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It just seems to me one of the key selling points of imvu is its creator program. It brings in a certain type of chatter that is prepared to take VIP so they can create. If the Client were to go, unless they bring in the ability to create via Next....that woud kill off the imvu shop. It would effectively freeze up and stay as is for the remainder of time. So even if only for creating reasons, surely the Client has to continue as a platform?

Todd announced that he was working to take creating out of the client. Not to Next, but as a stand-alone (like it used to be).

Shannon announced that Next was getting its own catalog.

We (creators) created for years without creating in the client...that's how I started...working in Previewer. Todd stated we were going back...but to a new version. It (creating) is just another feature being cannibalized from the client.

If Next is getting its own catalog, it leads me to wonder what, if any, of the existing products will even find their way over from the existing catalog into the Next only catalog. Perhaps it would be smart to start focusing on deriving from the new heads/hands/etc. that IMVU brought out last year? Who knows? IMVU has totally left us guessing at this point.

In either case, the client becomes less and less important...and I don't think that is an accident.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow NEXT is most likely the beginning of the end, after reading all these posts, i am a long time gamer and over the years ive seen how "platform/consol " games took over the "pc " market . now in this day and age its Apps for phones and tablets ... there are some games i just cant play on a game consol and there is still a market for PC gamers like me. maybe IMVU client will be one of them but unlikely.

I too will be curious to see what happens to our current catalogs and brat girl mentioned there use to be loader program before the client... like to see how thats going to work ...

oh and to sum up , I just dont like next, believe me i tried, the room interaction is terrible, after a few minutes other people in the room cant see you anymore, changing outfits is a pain.. should i go on?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BG, I think you're right. I remember Todd talking about not killing the client, and just taking create mode out of it so we can work offline. There was some fancy shiny talk about enhancing it with reflections and particles and whatnot, too. I can't quite remember what thread that was on, though. It might have been his Intro thread.


Next getting its own catalog scares the crap out of me, though. It's so awful, which is going to kill sales, and I'm not exactly sure how that could be compatible with the rankings and whatnot of the existing catalog. That really makes me doubt whether or not improvements for the client would really go forward. If the client goes, I'm definitely gone. I couldn't deal with that thing full time. I haven't really made a decision either way, yet, but that would definitely be a deal breaker. lol
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought I'd post the links to the announcements I referenced to make it easier for those following this thread.

This is where Todd (Segallion) said Create will be moved out of the client: click me and click me too.

This is where ShannonMac said that Next was getting its own catalog: click me.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does creating outside of client work? I'm new creator and I've only created in the client..is it easy to navigate and comprehend? I like the idea of being able to do this offline...I hate being in imvu and end up getting bothered by messages or invites etc...while trying to concentrate.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am finding Imvu is punishing smaller devs more and more while at the same time highlighting the same creators. (They are great too..but why publish "known" devs?)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roy...I do agree with you there. I'm not saying the big time creators don't deserve props for their hard work, time and talents coz they do but would be nice if imvu would do a rotation of promoting all creators.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the links BratGirl... going to be interesting on to see exactly what happens to the catalog from the current client .

if they don't carry it over there is going to be alot of pissed off,disappointed,confused people .. even more so if they become selective on what they carry forward . Can you imagine for both customers and Devs alike to open up your catalog and everything is gone!!!

on a lighter side note , would developing on NEXT be the end of the Tiers Program???
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glam wrote:
So many rumors going around, mainly.......

IMVU, are you going to get rid of the client ? Huge mistake if you do.

As a creator, I think it only fair you let us know now, what exactly you are going to do. It is very frustrating to hear all types of different information going around.

People enjoy the client,


If they take away the client they would lose a lot of money. They'd need to allow music to be bought in-app, even then people have music on their phones so they lose money there. Where are creators going to create?
What are they going to put into the store for people to buy? More than likely going to lose all us old timers that have played for years. I just feel like its a lot of money to lose if they bring down the client.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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*waves at Merc*

Thanks for chiming in. It is deplorable.

I guess I can file a helpLESS ticket to see if they are going to intentionally break my products.

Carrying over from other thread....
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These products link to Photo Stream pages of the user they were made for:

http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=29412555
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=29421229
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=29426756
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=29437335
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=29439556
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=29469572
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=29669661
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=29742138
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=29800740
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=29855335
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=30130748
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=30463406
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=30788522
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=31595955
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=31596434
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=31608865
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=31715549
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=31727427
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=31716888
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=31719544
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=31724999
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=31734819
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=31740489
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=31750638
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=31826699
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=32846276
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=32846072
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=32845913
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=32861437
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=32861477
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=32881947
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=32893466
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=32973859
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=33178778
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=33718700
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=33739615
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=34275968
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=34390570
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=33290361
http://www.imvu.com/shop/product.php?products_id=29406666

Are these all going to be broken and damage MY reputation as a Creator?

Am I now going to have to spend hours recoding url links on these items because of IMVU's frivalous ideas?

I'm pissed. Let's hope I am wrong.



IMVU. YOU. BROKE. MY. PRODUCTS.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple things that bug me:

I have some tops that I derived from a male base but made it for female and I can not use them on IMVU Next as I intended.

A Few UNISEX products, such as a full body scaler that is unisex will not work as unisex on IMVU Next.

IMVU Next is further segregating the "genders" of the avatars meanwhile everyone would really like to be able to wear anything together. (since there is already two for so long it is practically impossible to back peddle that much, but with a little meshwork I ave been able to convert some tops to the "opposite" gender for people that wanted them for their male and female avis)

Also...please stop giving the BETA to new users.

Some new users do not even realise there is a client and are not getting the whole experience. They are leaving because of so many issues with it.

There are a lot of things that have been making me ticked off lately, most others share as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roy IMVU has been giving us beta since I joined 11 years ago.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont use the Mobil or next for actually anything, so I would never have known unisex was broken..... This just gets worse and worse. "There" goes imvu
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THERE it goes indeed.


Brett mentioned "there" in this interview...
https://youtu.be/zO1A7jzL8xo
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PLEASE FIX THE UNISEX FEATURE.

I am getting reallllllyyyyy ticked off.

Not even my unisex eyes work. I often like to submit styles to just one side since any gender can use them.

(Why make eyes which is the most universal thing be restricted to a single gender in the first place?)

I can also hardly zoom in on my avatar's face in NEXT. i have to fight with the camera to get it in close. (the face is usually the most important feature) I do like being able to swivel about but I can hardly see them.

I did make a new account to see how things have been going...and I cna not even find where to download the client...I see why people I talk to have no idea about it. This reminds me of MEEZ but without the games...this is such a step backwards please stop releasing it without showing the original full version....at least not until you work out most of the bugs. You do not want to let the new users be the Beta testers....
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