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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me telling that I will be leaving the moment NEXT is a fact, not a thread.
It just means that IMVU has forced me into something that I dont enjoy and that will be the end of it for me.
I'm just a small fish in the sea and IMVU wont miss me... threatning is of no use. So it's a statement.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Me telling that I will be leaving the moment NEXT is a fact, not a thread.
It just means that IMVU has forced me into something that I dont enjoy and that will be the end of it for me.
I'm just a small fish in the sea and IMVU wont miss me... threatning is of no use. So it's a statement.


Yeah I know, I'm a small fish, too. It's more of a personal financial decision for me. I just don't know if I can justify the cost vs. the frustration anymore. I haven't fully decided, but it's something I'm just going to think on for a bit. I have a while before my VIP runs out since I pay yearly, so we'll see when it's time to renew it..
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Todd's announcement about PhotoStream - leaves me a little hopeful that they "plan" on adding the ability to see what's being used in the room to the Next version when they yank the website version.

He didn't talk about our products being in the catalog - but that they were going to have a "second" catalog.

What do you suppose THAT means?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Numbers is all IMVU sees. Well, lets give them numbers. If you hate Next, simply never use it. Be one less number in the total and we'll be that much closer to having it either shut down or force them to work and actually complete the site. If you're really dedicated to having this removed or changed, avoid Next like the plague.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

taking this from the announcement thread where I alt posted by accident:

if they don't draw a line in the sand for legacy products, they cannot immunize against the liability of the broken products. This way, the old problematic products we poured out money into get left behind with the legacy platform until tha platform dies.

the company cannot possibly evolve if they don't cut the old stuff loose. so, I'm going to wait and see what new developer tools they bring forth to make stuff for the next generation. It's doubtful that it makes any sense at all to make certain types of products (*cough triggers, *cough) products for the next gen backwards compatible. Personally, I would hope for some sort of accommodation for existing situations. But I feel really bad for developers who have 20,000 PID in their catalog. For sure, if you make certain types of products, they may not make the migration....... jus sayin' it only makes logical sense
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried to fairly explore Next again this morning since I had a little time.

I can't visit any chat rooms.

I still can't use WithMojis.

I looked at shopping and decided I really DO rely on those little 100 x 80 icons more than I have admitted in the past.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notorious wrote:
So Todd's announcement about PhotoStream - leaves me a little hopeful that they "plan" on adding the ability to see what's being used in the room to the Next version when they yank the website version.

He didn't talk about our products being in the catalog - but that they were going to have a "second" catalog.

What do you suppose THAT means?


I honestly don't know what that means and every explanation I can think of I can only imagine to be a terrible outcome for creators and the future of IMVU in general.

I am also extremely irritated that we're put in this spot, to have to guess and decipher hidden meanings and intentions from tiny snippets of text because that's ALL we're given. This involves our livelihoods, and we're getting random scraps of information about our future and IMVU are acting like they're doing us a favor by even casually hinting at what's about to happen to us. In my opinion, either release a full statement to creators about the future of IMVU's catalog, so we can plan accordingly, or don't say anything at all. This is just mocking us at this point.

I understand that they want to make big changes - they want to catch bigger fish, they want a completely new wave of users rushing to IMVU. I get it, they're not happy with IMVU's growth the past months/years. But to do something so drastic, so alienating to the existing IMVU user base, is an utter slap in the face and speaks volumes; much more than the crappy little announcement they deigned us with.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only way to catch bigger fish though is to complete re-do next to make it available with most if not all the features that client and web site has. Good luck on getting that done though without some major issues happening to client and site.
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Anarch wrote:
Notorious wrote:
So Todd's announcement about PhotoStream - leaves me a little hopeful that they "plan" on adding the ability to see what's being used in the room to the Next version when they yank the website version.

He didn't talk about our products being in the catalog - but that they were going to have a "second" catalog.

What do you suppose THAT means?


I honestly don't know what that means and every explanation I can think of I can only imagine to be a terrible outcome for creators and the future of IMVU in general.

I am also extremely irritated that we're put in this spot, to have to guess and decipher hidden meanings and intentions from tiny snippets of text because that's ALL we're given. This involves our livelihoods, and we're getting random scraps of information about our future and IMVU are acting like they're doing us a favor by even casually hinting at what's about to happen to us. In my opinion, either release a full statement to creators about the future of IMVU's catalog, so we can plan accordingly, or don't say anything at all. This is just mocking us at this point.

I understand that they want to make big changes - they want to catch bigger fish, they want a completely new wave of users rushing to IMVU. I get it, they're not happy with IMVU's growth the past months/years. But to do something so drastic, so alienating to the existing IMVU user base, is an utter slap in the face and speaks volumes; much more than the crappy little announcement they deigned us with.



*bolded by me - Thank you Ana...

IMVU are you listening, we know you're not, but we're NOT going anywhere!!! Mad Mad Mad =^.^=

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The NEXT the way it was and is designed is crap and for all I know, crap may have patches to be less crap but not a solution. Even worse is to have something that works, even with a number of errors that should be fixed but ignored (not just IMVU creation, but IMVU as a whole), and go for a new one, with more errors and fewer features, and Want to push throats of users and creators, risking to lose everything they have achieved during so many years of struggle (theirs and ours).

Anyway, I do not know what's worse: Whether it's NEXT or the strategy used for migration. We now only have to wait for the next disaster that will surely come when they decide to abandon the current PC platform.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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First: I hate Next. I hate it a lot. Like, a LOT a lot. SO much lot.

-Snip-


I always enjoy reading your posts, TheBratGirl.

However, regardless of how reasonably you phrased what appears to be the natural progression, or how inevitable it may be, none of that means much to me.
Because if the client goes, I go. And I know I'm not the only one. So before IMVU doubles down on this decision, I would hope they would take into consideration how many long-time users they would be sacrificing for potential new users who are just as likely to leave as they are to stay.
The thing about committing to the fast-paced and intensely competitive world of phone apps, is that you have to be prepared for what that means.. Which is frequent and consistent updates, willingness to throw away everything to change with the latest fad, and a product that works seamlessly with no hangups. Because the crowd that uses phone apps for gaming, networking, chatting, etc does not have the same kind of patience as one who is willing to sit down at a computer for a while.

I just don't think IMVU has the resources, skill, technical capability or experience to keep up with that sort of demand. And I think if they attempt to tailor their product specifically to that audience, they may be starting a project that will prove to be too much for their current abilities.

Perhaps if the product was newer, and they had more resources at their disposal it could be a feasible change- but at this point, the current IMVU community is far too accustomed to the PC experience to give it up for something they didn't want or ask for.
Were I in IMVU's shoes, I would stick with my reliable community of long-time users rather than give up everything I'd ever done in a bid to snag an entirely new and different customer base.. Which may not even like the product.

But I'm afraid that might make a little too much sense for IMVU. They have a history of ignoring sensible courses of action when they've already decided on their own nonsense.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I completely hate NEXT, I do NOT use it and will NOT use it.
If they insist on shoving it down our throats I think they will find that IMVU will fail.

At one time IMVU was a rich and vibrant community full of hope and "promise" because of all of the amazing creators here.

NEXT lacks imagination or a sense of that community that made IMVU thrive in the first place.

Once the kiddies grow tired they will leave and be on to other games and sites because there is NOTHING to hold the young budding adults or the older ones here anymore.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I decided to try chatting on Next today....I was curious if there was an improvement from the last time I tried chatting there.

It took me about 4 mins to load into the still same ugly room....the other chatter was obviously also struggling as he didnt type anything either. I then finaly loaded, so I typed and hit 'send'.....and it lagged for about 1 min at which point I got bored and logged off.

I'll try again in another 6 months time.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elsen wrote:
TheBratGirl wrote:
First: I hate Next. I hate it a lot. Like, a LOT a lot. SO much lot.

-Snip-


I always enjoy reading your posts, TheBratGirl.

However, regardless of how reasonably you phrased what appears to be the natural progression, or how inevitable it may be, none of that means much to me.
Because if the client goes, I go. And I know I'm not the only one. So before IMVU doubles down on this decision, I would hope they would take into consideration how many long-time users they would be sacrificing for potential new users who are just as likely to leave as they are to stay.
The thing about committing to the fast-paced and intensely competitive world of phone apps, is that you have to be prepared for what that means.. Which is frequent and consistent updates, willingness to throw away everything to change with the latest fad, and a product that works seamlessly with no hangups. Because the crowd that uses phone apps for gaming, networking, chatting, etc does not have the same kind of patience as one who is willing to sit down at a computer for a while.

I just don't think IMVU has the resources, skill, technical capability or experience to keep up with that sort of demand. And I think if they attempt to tailor their product specifically to that audience, they may be starting a project that will prove to be too much for their current abilities.

Perhaps if the product was newer, and they had more resources at their disposal it could be a feasible change- but at this point, the current IMVU community is far too accustomed to the PC experience to give it up for something they didn't want or ask for.
Were I in IMVU's shoes, I would stick with my reliable community of long-time users rather than give up everything I'd ever done in a bid to snag an entirely new and different customer base.. Which may not even like the product.

But I'm afraid that might make a little too much sense for IMVU. They have a history of ignoring sensible courses of action when they've already decided on their own nonsense.


*Resized as it was too small for my agig eyes Smile

The bolded part - I cant find the post but I remember Todd posting that there was no plans to do away with the Client at any point, that it was very much key to Imvus long term strategy. Was it the post giving us an outline of the current state of play and asking us for suggestions on changes we'd like to see?

It just seems to me one of the key selling points of imvu is its creator program. It brings in a certain type of chatter that is prepared to take VIP so they can create. If the Client were to go, unless they bring in the ability to create via Next....that woud kill off the imvu shop. It would effectively freeze up and stay as is for the remainder of time. So even if only for creating reasons, surely the Client has to continue as a platform?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elsen wrote:
I always enjoy reading your posts, TheBratGirl.

Thank you Smile


Elsen wrote:
However, regardless of how reasonably you phrased what appears to be the natural progression, or how inevitable it may be, none of that means much to me.
Because if the client goes, I go. And I know I'm not the only one. So before IMVU doubles down on this decision, I would hope they would take into consideration how many long-time users they would be sacrificing for potential new users who are just as likely to leave as they are to stay.

I understand that. Believe me, I do. Because, honestly, I can't see myself using Next, either. I've tried...been trying since I was in the testing group...and it's just awful.

However, that being said, I can't ignore what seems to be coming on the winds of change. And, if that is where we are headed, then I think the creator community needs to be vocal and persistent about voicing what WE need Next to be/be capable of.

I know we need Next. Conversely, however, that doesn't mean we need to get rid of the client...I am in NO way advocating that. I don't want the client to go anywhere. But, I firmly believe that that is exactly what IMVU is working towards.

I don't know if I will stay if the client doesn't. For me, that will depend on where things go from here. If Next stays much as it is, then the odds are VERY good that I won't be sticking around...just not sure if that matters to anybody.


Elsen wrote:
The thing about committing to the fast-paced and intensely competitive world of phone apps, is that you have to be prepared for what that means.. Which is frequent and consistent updates, willingness to throw away everything to change with the latest fad, and a product that works seamlessly with no hangups. Because the crowd that uses phone apps for gaming, networking, chatting, etc does not have the same kind of patience as one who is willing to sit down at a computer for a while.

I just don't think IMVU has the resources, skill, technical capability or experience to keep up with that sort of demand. And I think if they attempt to tailor their product specifically to that audience, they may be starting a project that will prove to be too much for their current abilities.

Perhaps if the product was newer, and they had more resources at their disposal it could be a feasible change- but at this point, the current IMVU community is far too accustomed to the PC experience to give it up for something they didn't want or ask for.

You make very valid points. However, IMVU has been steadily building a client base that has no idea that the client version of IMVU (much less the classic web presence) even exists. I would have to imagine that this "test" is going well...or at least near to what IMVU expected, because IMVU is sticking with it.

I am not saying this is the right, or smart, direction for IMVU to be taking...just that they're taking it.


Elsen wrote:
Were I in IMVU's shoes, I would stick with my reliable community of long-time users rather than give up everything I'd ever done in a bid to snag an entirely new and different customer base.. Which may not even like the product.

But I'm afraid that might make a little too much sense for IMVU. They have a history of ignoring sensible courses of action when they've already decided on their own nonsense.

Honestly, I don't think IMVU believes that they will lose enough of us. In any event, you're right, their history speaks volumes.
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