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When you block someone, should your chatrooms and avatar card and location be HIDDEN from them?
YES! When I block someone, I do NOT want them to EASILY stalk/harass me.
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NO! I still want the evil person to keep associating with me even though I blocked them!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:17 pm    Post subject: If you BLOCK someone, they still see your AVI CARD +CHATROOM Reply with quote

This is how we feel when our block button doesn't work:


Okay. I blocked my worst enemy on imvu, and he also blocked me.

Yet he can still search up my name "Yuno," click on my name to open up my Avatar card. Then, he can click on the Room Name I'm in, and FOLLOW ME INSIDE- and then we can still physically see the words we say to each other.

Hello? Shouldn't all this be hidden from the man I block? (I hate him so much.)

He's also blocked me yet he can do all this garbage to me; track me down, open up my room card, take note of who I'm friends with, try to turn them against me.


All without violating any imvu rules. (So no IMVU won't disable him)

It's annoying. And what's worse, even if BOTH parties BLOCKED each other, they can still stalk.


The ONLY thing good about blocking is that they can't send messages or go inside your room. That's literally ALL of it. They can still make your life hell using their MAIN account.

Because no one hates me enough to create alt accounts JUST to annoy me, but since they can so easily do it on their main account despite being blocked, they do it.

Am I the only one?

(And before you get started on flagging or my profile card being UFI. What are the odds that I'm going to block 10000 potential flaggers? even if I do that, someone else will still flag me so w.e. )

Just give me privacy against blocked stalkers...please IMVU:

Make the block button work: A blocked person cannot open your room card, avatar card, see what room you're in to follow you inside. And when they follow you inside, you can still see every word they say about you.

Yeah I can flag him (at most he'll get a warning from imvu,) but none of this would have happened if he simply did not follow me.

Because the BLOCK BUTTON is USELESS

Also:

Moeko wrote:
A big YES for this idea and I hope someone from staff is actually reading this.

iMMuneC wrote:
I'd prefer to be able to block users via a checkbox system.

Blocking Abilities:
- Blocked User cannot view my Profile Card
- Blocked User cannot view my Homepage
- Blocked User cannot visit or purchase from my Shop
- Blocked User cannot be gifted products from my Shop
- Remove my products from Blocked Users Wishlist automatically (if it applies)
- Revoke all previous owned Badges that I've created from Blocked Users account
- Blocked User cannot send gifts to me
- Blocked User cannot send Credits or Upgrades to me
- Blocked User cannot view, be invited to, or access my (owned) Group Pages
- Blocked User will be automatically removed from any Group Page I own
- Disallow Blocked User from viewing or commenting on Forum Posts I start
- All of the Above


-- iMMuneC --


^ And this tbh.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been brought up time and time again and I still agree block needs to be improved.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that he should not be able to pull up your avi card. That is so wrong.

HOWEVER ....
I can't get behind the blocking keeping anyone out of rooms that you don't own.
A user can only control who can't come into their rooms. Not the rooms of their friends.

Hopefully soon enough your friends will see this bully for what he is and add him to their block list as well. The whole turning of friends is a tactic of bullies LONG before IMVU or even the internet. A true friend will stand by your side no matter what.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DagneyV wrote:
I agree that he should not be able to pull up your avi card. That is so wrong.


YES, absolutely.

DagneyV wrote:

HOWEVER ....
I can't get behind the blocking keeping anyone out of rooms that you don't own.
A user can only control who can't come into their rooms. Not the rooms of their friends.

Hopefully soon enough your friends will see this bully for what he is and add him to their block list as well. The whole turning of friends is a tactic of bullies LONG before IMVU or even the internet. A true friend will stand by your side no matter what.



I did not suggest this. I suggested that a bully cannot see WHICH room you're currently INSIDE just by looking at your card.


Look, if I hate someone and I open up their card, I can see their room LOCATION and follow them inside.

The ability for the block button to hide your room location from the bully, that's what I'm advocating for.

Not to auto-ban a bully from entering a room you're in, but to make sure that bully DOESN'T KNOW WHICH room you're in. (And like I said, they can find out easily by opening up your avatar card and checking, even clicking the Follow button to come in and argue with you in a public room.)

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DagneyV wrote:
I agree that he should not be able to pull up your avi card. That is so wrong.


YES, absolutely.

DagneyV wrote:

HOWEVER ....
I can't get behind the blocking keeping anyone out of rooms that you don't own.
A user can only control who can't come into their rooms. Not the rooms of their friends.

Hopefully soon enough your friends will see this bully for what he is and add him to their block list as well. The whole turning of friends is a tactic of bullies LONG before IMVU or even the internet. A true friend will stand by your side no matter what.



I did not suggest this. I suggested that a bully cannot see WHICH room you're currently INSIDE just by looking at your card.


Look, if I hate someone and I open up their card, I can see their room LOCATION and follow them inside.

The ability for the block button to hide your room location from the bully, that's what I'm advocating for.

Not to auto-ban a bully from entering a room you're in, but to make sure that bully DOESN'T KNOW WHICH room you're in. (And like I said, they can find out easily by opening up your avatar card and checking, even clicking the Follow button to come in and argue with you in a public room.)

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely agree they should not be able to pull your card or see the room you are in listed on it. Even if you are unsearchable (like me) there are other ways to get to the avatar card, pull it, and find out what room you are in. Which is stupid if you have someone blocked or they have you blocked.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree then. No one on your block list should have access to your avi card or your homepage. A block should remove you from their sight. The only thing they should still be able to access by you is your catalog. No reviews of course but they can spend their credits in your shop.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goodness me, I had no idea that this was a thing.. I feel slightly unnerved at that. You would have thought that "blocked" meant blocked - i.e. unable to contact you, unable to see your activity, you being completely out of their reach.
Ultimately this could become a safety issue. I can't believe this has not been improved sooner. What are you doing IMVU?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DagneyV wrote:
I agree then. No one on your block list should have access to your avi card or your homepage. A block should remove you from their sight. The only thing they should still be able to access by you is your catalog. No reviews of course but they can spend their credits in your shop.


I don't think blocked users should be able to access our catalog. I still want the option to prevent blocked users from viewing my catalog.

Overall, I support this idea 100%!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seeing your room location? no.
seeing your tagline? no
seeing your interests? no
seeing your profile card? yes

i don't know why the profile card is such a big deal to you, but it is the only link were users can report/flag one another. i could see bullies using the block feature as a safety for themselves.

lets NOT make the profile card hidden. everything on the card (profile pic, badges, location, tagline, interests, relation.. literally everything) can be blanked out, but not the card itself.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I agree blocking people should become more of a final action than it ends up actually being, everyone I've blocked has only gone and harassed me with an alt. I guess the only thing you can do is hide your location.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lapfox wrote:
seeing your room location? no.
seeing your tagline? no
seeing your interests? no
seeing your profile card? yes

i don't know why the profile card is such a big deal to you, but it is the only link were users can report/flag one another. i could see bullies using the block feature as a safety for themselves.

lets NOT make the profile card hidden. everything on the card (profile pic, badges, location, tagline, interests, relation.. literally everything) can be blanked out, but not the card itself.


Their isn't any point in reporting a users profile card if you cannot see what is on it. You are only supposed to report a user if they are breaking the TOS, and if you cannot view anything on their card then you cannot determine if it breaks the TOS or not.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lapfox wrote:
seeing your room location? no.
seeing your tagline? no
seeing your interests? no
seeing your profile card? yes

i don't know why the profile card is such a big deal to you, but it is the only link were users can report/flag one another. i could see bullies using the block feature as a safety for themselves.

lets NOT make the profile card hidden. everything on the card (profile pic, badges, location, tagline, interests, relation.. literally everything) can be blanked out, but not the card itself.


Their isn't any point in reporting a users profile card if you cannot see what is on it. You are only supposed to report a user if they are breaking the TOS, and if you cannot view anything on their card then you cannot determine if it breaks the TOS or not.


my bad, I rarely flag so i wasn't sure what i was talking about.
seems like the flag button is only for imagine, name, tag and interests. i was honestly expecting a option for bad behavior (/stalking - harassing). but eh, maybe i'm expecting too much
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

also if the person blocked you, you're not the only person on imvu who would flag him if he violates any tagline rules. Any other passerby can flag him. it's an unsubstantial reason to let people you blocked see your profile card and room location.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have been multiple times that the loophole in the blocking system has been brought up.

And by multiple people.

As of right now, people you block can still see everything to do with you. They simply can't message you or go into any rooms you own.

They can still see your procard.
They can still visit your home page.
They can still see and purchase from your catty.
They MIGHT still be able to send you credits. I know that used to be the case but it may have been fixed? I thought I saw a while ago that it had but can't find it now...

I have a grand total of two people on my block list. Two. Both of which have been known to be vindictive little brats and follow me into rooms because they know they can. Flag my stickers (which is all I Dev because I have no talent lol) because they know CS is basically "Delete first, ask questions later" due to the large amount of flagging. And basically harass me in every way they can.

My choices were leave IMVU or simply retreat to my own rooms and not dev any more stickers to be flagged. Which is what I did.

When you block someone, you should cease to exist in IMVUland to them. Of course people block for stupid reasons, but a lot of people block for good reasons as well, and the IMVU block system in its current state is incredibly flawed.
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