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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:31 pm    Post subject: IMVU’s Position On The Confederate Flag - by Brett Durrett Reply with quote

In response to several messages received, instead of responding individually, Brett Durrett (IMVU's CEO) has just published a blog post outlining his and IMVU's position on the issue.

You can read it here on our blog:

http://blog.imvu.com/imvus-position-on-the-confederate-flag/

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just saw this a bit ago when checking the blog. While I have to say, I disagree with the decision, I appreciate that Brett did indeed take time to answer and blog about this issue. The meaning of the flag is different for many people from the South, as Brett himself stated it was just a symbol of heritage to him when he was growing up (and not about racial hatred).

History is just that, history. It cannot be changed and symbols only have the power one gives them. It gained power when it was banned, not lost it. That is my opinion on the matter (for what it's worth).

Kudos to Brett for taking time to post the blog. Much respect for that decision.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a very good blog .. good on you Brett Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done! Well said!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for explaining, Brett.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to see he finally addressed the issue, should have done so a lot sooner. Anyway, glad to see an explanation finally even if I disagree with the actions taken. In no way should any creator have to pay refunds on products that were not UFI prior to this change. The decision was IMVU's and IMVU should have paid those costs, not creators.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NikkiHart01 wrote:
Glad to see he finally addressed the issue, should have done so a lot sooner. Anyway, glad to see an explanation finally even if I disagree with the actions taken. In no way should any creator have to pay refunds on products that were not UFI prior to this change. The decision was IMVU's and IMVU should have paid those costs, not creators.


Bolded by me.

Even though I supported IMVU's decision on this matter, I have to agree with Nikki here. There is no way that any creator could have predicted that what was once a GA item would turn UFI. Any item made prior to the change, no creator should have been punished for (ex. forced to have given refunds).

Also, IMVU should have also announced this change to everyone (customer and creator alike) via email (much like they did with the Policy Hub changes) and inbox message. NOT through just forums and blue/yellow bar. Many users do not know about the forums, or even use them; and many users (like myself) rarely pay attention to the blue/yellow bars due to it being mostly advertisements.

I will hope that in the future, IMVU will continue to keep their customers and Creators informed through emails and inbox notices, rather than expecting us to be mind readers.

Kudos to Brett for making the statement, but I hope that IMVU will learn to keep their community better informed on such matters.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Brett. Thank You for this.

Along with the above posts by NikkiHart01 and Ambrosyia, I also think it was a bit harsh to lay the burden on those creators who did not use that symbol as unintended.

Perhaps sufficient explanation and notice will be given to everyone in the future so that no one is left guessing.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though I disagree with imvu jumping on the bandwagon, fine that Brett finally made a statement. But seriously, it's strange that certain violent/hateful gangs are allowed to be represented on imvu, but a flag wrongfully labeled is immediately removed to keep 'in the graces' with other companies.

When will Brett personally respond to the lack of care for members that are harmed by viewing the profile cards that are active with multiple animated badges? When will he be kind enough to explain why he refuses to agree to allow us a full opt-out for our sake, and why he wants to take away a very useful tool?

I would love to see explanations on that as well. I mean, really. Come right out and say it. "We don't care because we want the credit sink and you just need to stop using the cards or leave our site. We don't want visually disabled people to have access to our site/client."

Because that's how it feels. Seriously.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

take away a flag but allow an illegal drug. makes sense.... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salutes the service men that fought for our rights.....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/22/why-a-virginia-principal-refuses-to-take-down-her-schools-confederate-flags/?wprss=rss_homepage
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shynoah wrote:
take away a flag but allow an illegal drug. makes sense.... Rolling Eyes


THIS!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shynoah wrote:
take away a flag but allow an illegal drug. makes sense.... Rolling Eyes


It is legal in many states here and also in many countries. The trend is toward it becoming legal in all states here. Even TX, which is in the heart of the Bible Belt is trying to make it legal. IMVU is in California, where it is legal for some uses. Therefore, they are abiding by the laws of their base location and current USA trends where you can buy items with that symbol in many stores across the United States or on line.

Edited to add: This is off topic so it will probably be deleted but I had to respond.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Salutes the service men that fought for our rights.....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/22/why-a-virginia-principal-refuses-to-take-down-her-schools-confederate-flags/?wprss=rss_homepage


Thank you for posting the article link. It is like this in many places. Where I live, many are flying the flag on the back of their trucks with a sign that says "heritage not hate".
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what Brett's saying is that he's considering Everyone's feelings over his own (southern) feelings. That's why he banned the flag.

Oh...

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