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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 9:09 am    Post subject: Discussion #10: Creators earning money directly from IMVU Reply with quote

Original thread posted by Varsha

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IMVU's announcement regarding how Creators can now earn money for their product sales directly from IMVU.

The original announcement will stay locked so everyone has an easy way to access and consume that information.

IMVU staff will be actively monitoring the discussion here, however, may not respond to each and every post. We will however update the FAQs as and when needed based on this discussion.

Reminders: Please keep your posts on topic. As per our forum rules, baiting, attacking each other, etc is not okay.

Thank you.

Other Staff Responses in this Discussion:

Link - Page 2 - Clarification on Creator notifications, profit rate, and credit purchase rates
Link - Page 3 - Creators won't have to worry about when credits can be purchased under the new structure
Link - Page 3 - Clarification on decisionmaking process, and involvement with resellers during the transition period.
Link - Page 8 - Clarification on taxing for international creators
Link - Page 9 - Multiple clarifications including Announcements, Credits and Money, International Creators and All Creators
Link - Page 10 - For now you will have to verify each creator account individually, but IMVU is working on linking accounts together.
Link - Page 20 - You can earn money or credits, or both as a creator.
Link - Page 21 - IMVU has never been hacked, but has been subject to a DDOS attack that reduced service to customers, but that was external to IMVU.
Link - Page 35 - International creators only pay the 30% tax if they do not supply IMVU with their tax information. Although the creator agreement mentions a transaction fee for multiple payouts, IMVU has no plans to invoke it at this time.
Link - Page 35 - Creators have until April 14th to sell their credits to a reseller
Link - Page 35 - Reasoning behind selecting Paypal as payment processor.
Link - Page 35 - Creators will earn credits by default unless they select to earn money
Link - Page 39 - Reiteration about taxing and creator payout fees.
Link - Page 40 - Explaining why the source of credits is important to IMVU purchasing them, notification to all IMVU users going out thursday, and credits will still be used for submissions

Link - Thread 2, Page 2 - Where to find information about Jon Watte.
Link - Thread 2, Page 3 - More clarification about the signup process
Link - Thread 2, Page 4 - More clarification about taxing
Link - Thread 2, Page 4 - Credit gifting does not change, and transfer limits are still in place.
Link - Thread 2, Page 5 - Signatures are required on forms submitted to IMVU, but they may be electronic signatures.
Link - Thread 2, Page 6 - Anyone selling credits in an unauthorized manner is still subject to actions against their account, including disabling
Link - Thread 2 - Page 9 - More clarifications on taxing
Link - Thread 2 - Page 86 - Updates and clarifications
Link - Thread 2 - Page 86 - Clarifications on Earning Credits versus money, Orders placed with IMVU, Credits earned from other than sales, Every creator can earn money
Link - Thread 2 - Page 88 - Explaining we are on an accelerated pend schedule
Link - Thread 2 - Page 89 - How pended credits and income events are now displayed

Thread 3 - Page 11 - Reminders
Thread 3 - Page 20 - Derivation costs explained
Thread 3 - Page 29 - Updates/Clarifications
Thread 3 - Page 36 - Cash vs. Cash earnings in pend, How long is Verification taking?
Thread 3 - Page 38 - Option for part credits and part cash?, The switch between the two options is secure, Once you select cash, you must get payment in cash
Thread 3 - Page 43 - Database issue was not a hack against IMVU
Thread 3 - Page 48 - No truth to the rumor that people are being disabled over protests
Thread 3 - Page 48 - Yes you can send documents via snail mail
Therad 3 Page 73 - Link to post by Brett IMVU's CEO

Therad 4 Page 77 - Clarifications on derive fee being paid in credits
Thread 4 - Page 79 - Clarification on how IMVU will work with creators who fail verification
Thread 4 - Page 80 - Address for sending documents to IMVU via Snail mail
Thread 4 - Page 82 - Clarification on Account Verification and Filing tax forms for those outside of the US

Thread 5 - Page 15 - Creator account verification is down for maintenance
Thread 5 - Page 19 - While account verification is down, tickets will be invisible - But IMVU is still processing them.
Thread 5 - Page 31 - From the day you decide to earn money, you have 90 days to complete verification
Thread 5 - Page 33 - Changes in possible fee when withdrawing money more than once a month
Thread 5 - Page 45 - Clarification on the amount earned with small profit margins
Thread 5 - Page 52 - Reiteration of dates for selling and buying from resellers
Thread 5 - Page 53 - FAQ updated to explain how profits when earned in cash work

Thread 6 - Page 88 - Assorted updates

Thread 7 - Page 57 - Customer service and security answers
Thread 7 - Page 73 - Updated account verification process
Thread 7 - Page 73 - Assorted answers to questions
Thread 7 - Page 76 - If you snail-mail your documents, they will replace anything submitted online
Thread 7 - Page 79 - What the verification message looks like, and a link to how to see if you are verified
Thread 7 - Page 80 - You can use one paypal account for all your alts, but each alt must be verified separately
Thread 7 - Page 80 - Yes, the new verification system meets IMVU's highest standards, and staff members are using it
Thread 8 - Page 17 - All OLD system verifications have been processed one way or another, users will be notified when they submit to NEW system specifics as to why they might have been failed

Thread 8 - Page 9 - Official staff post on clarifications to the verification process
Thread 8 - Page 11 - Clarification on paypal, and that what paypal requires is between you and paypal
Thread 8 - Page 15 - Update on verification tickets removed from the system
Thread 8 - Page 17 - VIPs not prioritized when it comes to verification; verifications being handled in batches by staff, but still in order they were received;
Thread 8 - Page 18 - Setting cash or credit per item is planned in phase 2, but no timeline yet
Thread 8 - Page 37 - All tickets are in their system, there was a glitch not showing some, but that is being resolved. There is no time limit for verifying your account
Thread 8 - Page 39 - Only way to earn money is through the shop; Verification is a manual process handled with staff in corporate office; Invisible tickets issue is resolved;
Thread 8 - Page 44 - If you still do not see your verification status page, ensure that your interests do not contain special characters like hearts, etc.
Thread 8 - Page 44 - IMVU is having issues sending email to gmail and hotmail addresses, however this is on their end, not IMVU's.
Thread 8 - Page 47 - Updates on Verification process, expecting processing to take about a week
Thread 8 - Page 48 - Clarifications on time limits for cashing out, etc
Thread 8 - Page 49 - If international users submit the W8BEN form and are verified, IMVU does not withhold taxes
Thread 8 - Page 49 - International requests are not handled by any special team, it is the same team for all verifications
Thread 8 - Page 52 - The limit to how many times you may cash out per month is per individual IMVU account
Thread 8 - Page 53 - Clarifications on Tier Calculation and future plans
Thread 8 - Page 54 - Taxation clarifications
Thread 8 - Page 56 - Clarifications on DMCA Violations and Monies withheld from US creators
Thread 8 - Page 64 - Derive fees moving forward will be paid in cash
Thread 8 - Page 72 - IMVU expects payouts to take 2-3 days or sooner
Thread 8 - Page 73 - Updates and Clarifications, Verifications are taking up to a week to process currently
Thread 8 - Page 74 - Payout requests will only be delayed if information is wrong, i.e. Different paypal ID, or amounts requested that are less than you have available
Thread 8 - Page 78 - IMVU is getting information regarding tax withholding notifications
Thread 8 - Page 78 - IMVU will be filing an appropriate form with the IRS as well as sending it to users on an annual basis what amounts were earned and withheld
Thread 8 - Page 79 - Varsha is not a ROBOT
Thread 8 - Page 82 - General Updates
Thread 8 - staff reply about ZCDs
Thread 8 - Page 92 - How to update your information, and when creators were notified
Thread 8 - Page 92 - Earliest you can cash out is April 22nd
Thread 8 - Page 94 - Updates to Verification timing
Thread 8 - Page 94 - How to check your verification status
Thread 8 - Page 98 - Clarification on verification timings and priorization


Thread 9 - Page 5 - Reversals

Thread 9 - Page 6 - Clarification on dev tokens
Thread 9 - Page 13 - tax info
Thread 9 - Page 18 - Clarification about sales and derive emails
Thread 9 - Page 20 - Information about reports
Thread 9 - Page 21 - Your phone number is needed for verification when requesting a payout
Thread 9 - Page 21 - IMVU has adjusted reports so they are easier to understand
Thread 9 - Page 26 - If you don't have a phone number, IMVU will work with you to find a way to contact you
Thread 9 - Page 30 - Clarifications on how payout requests will work
Thread 9 - Page 34 - Clarifications on how pend works, payouts
Thread 9 - Page 35 - Clarifications on timing of payments, Maximum amounts, etc
Thread 9 - Page 39 - Verifications will no longer be done on the weekends, but M-F during normal business hours
Thread 9 - Page 39 - No changes to credit transfer limits except to resellers
Thread 9 - Page 45 – Derive fees now in cash old derive fees in credits
Thread 9 - Page 46 - clarification about 'missing' sales due to maximum row count in report
Thread 9 - Page 48 - changes to creator report style planned
Thread 9 - Page 53 - Creator reports all in one place
Thread 9 - Page 58 - Non-US Creator reminders
Thread 9 - Page 58 - IMVU is aware of report issues; payout issues updates
Thread 9 - Page 59 - Payouts are in order of submission
Thread 9 - Page 63 - The "product without info" and "odd/even dates not expanding" issues should be fixed. Still working other issues.
Thread 9 - Page 74 - Payout timelines
Thread 9 - Page 82 - Link to Extended reports so that you can start linking accounts
Thread 9 - Page 82 - Staff is aware of mass reversals, need more information
Thread 9 - 82 - accounts can be linked but procedures not in place yet to allow payouts from 2 accounts into 1 ,
thread 9- p83 - 30 day is a rolling period starting with first request.
Thread 9 - p84 - updates on payout fees, payout requests, and ticket modification
Thread 9 - p92 - updates on verification of payout requests, time taken, and tax information.

Thread 10 - p16 - clarification about MASA limits.
Thread 10 - p22 - Financial year runs from Jan 1st
Thread 10 - p22 - update on pended cash schedules
Thread 10 - p24 - Clarification on MASA and no cash involved until payment
thread 10 - p31- further MASA clarification
Thread 10 - p31- plans to automate system
Thread 10 - p32 - payout timings
Thread 10 – pg.33 Payouts 3 to 6 days
Thread 10 – pg.36 Linking alt accounts
Thread 10 – pg.37 IMVU does not discuss individual cases in the forums
Thread 10 – pg.48 30 day period for payouts
Thread 10 – pg.49 new creator clarification
Thread 10 – pg.51 Pend clarification
Thread 10 – pg.55 Users posting incorrect information to others
Thread 10 – pg.55 Payments processed 2-3 days a week
Thread 10 – pg.56 Delay when IMVU sends payouts to paypal due to paypal
Thread 10 – pg.60 Promo bundle clarification
Thread 10 – pg.62 Clarifications about the Masa, payouts for now are 3-6 days, royalty rate remains at 40
Thread 10 – pg.62 We can request payouts every few months
Thread 10 – pg.64 Very few creators affected by the masa
Thread 10 – pg.79 responding to suggestion to make it easier to switch between cash and credits
Thread 10 – pg.83 IMVU's MASA or $10,000 Cap are on the payouts and not earnings via product sales
Thread 10 – pg.85 User to user transactions are off topic. Users can sell files, art as they always have and are at a users own risk.
Thread 10 – pg.87 Reminder-legal advice and discussions are not allowed. PM Varsha if you need specifics on personal payouts
[urlhttp://www.imvu.com/catalog/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpbb2&file=viewtopic.php&p=11333394#11333394]Thread 10 - pg. 92: Updates about timelines[/url]
Thread 10 - pg 92: Reminder about next steps
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Varsha, can I please ask my question again.

What is going to happen with our old credits (in the account balance prior to the date we swapped over to cash payments only)? I have a lot since I was away and I am not sure what I am supposed to do to get them move to my cash balance.

I calculated that if I create and then buy an empty bundle (the fee is still there) with my alt I lose too many credits. If this is the only way can you please do something that will allow us to create a no mark-up or added fee item that we can buy to death like an empty bundle or sticker Very Happy in order to move our credits into the cash pend.

I'm not really happy about this to be honest I would prefer it if you could just move my credits for me somehow. If not please help and show me a way to do this without a headache.

I'm open to suggestions but bear in mind I can buy products from my alt but won't that imbalance the catalog sales? It's so time-consuming.

Even if you guys did a 10% off sale I would still lose credits in the purchase.

All I can say is help!! Sad Sad
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All imvu creators agree payout request times are taking entirely too long any plans on fixing this broken system?
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At first I was pretty open to the idea of IMVU taking over payments to creators until I received this:

"We failed to inform you that you will not be able to receive your full payout due to hitting your monthly payout limit of $950 based on our payout policy."

That's less than minimum wage. Is there any answer to this?
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elfe wrote:
At first I was pretty open to the idea of IMVU taking over payments to creators until I received this:

"We failed to inform you that you will not be able to receive your full payout due to hitting your monthly payout limit of $950 based on our payout policy."

That's less than minimum wage. Is there any answer to this?


Oh hey look. We were all worried about that MASA thing and we were told not to worry. I think we know IMVU better than they know themselves. Wonder if that is why so many other people are under review....
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elfe wrote:
At first I was pretty open to the idea of IMVU taking over payments to creators until I received this:

"We failed to inform you that you will not be able to receive your full payout due to hitting your monthly payout limit of $950 based on our payout policy."

That's less than minimum wage. Is there any answer to this?


Oh that is even more depressing. lol
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loosing faith in new system fast.

Checked Creator Payment Page this morning, stated X amount of Cash, refreshed ten minutes later and $1.00 is missing. This is the 3rd time now I've noticed exactly $1.00 missing. Where did it go, they go?

One reversed transaction in two weeks doesn't cut that amount of loss and doesn't even come close.

So this leads to: Where and who do we direct disappearing money issues to?
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elfe wrote:
At first I was pretty open to the idea of IMVU taking over payments to creators until I received this:

"We failed to inform you that you will not be able to receive your full payout due to hitting your monthly payout limit of $950 based on our payout policy."

That's less than minimum wage. Is there any answer to this?



Hey, lookie that. We were told not to worry about that MASA thing - looks like that was another mistruth.

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I do not understand! I thought they said up to 10.000 $ a month! Or did i read that wrong? Not that I will ever have that much, but I thought that is what they said...... Confused
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elfe wrote:
At first I was pretty open to the idea of IMVU taking over payments to creators until I received this:

"We failed to inform you that you will not be able to receive your full payout due to hitting your monthly payout limit of $950 based on our payout policy."


That's less than minimum wage. Is there any answer to this?


Was your acct under review? Did they pay you anything? Arrg....I have 2 pretty big request in and I am under review since Wed....still waiting for IMVU to tell me whats up! If they are going to limit us per month they need to say "hey, this is all you can get this month"....how does this leave room for improvement?
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also...


they didn't "fail to inform you." They just informed you.
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I do not understand! I thought they said up to 10.000 $ a month! Or did i read that wrong? Not that I will ever have that much, but I thought that is what they said...... Confused


That is exactly what I thought was said. $10,000

Maybe it's her limit and not a universal limit.
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We were told MASA wasn't a concern, unless and except for extraordinary circumstances.

Every. Single. Day. We get told one thing, and then another pops up.

I'm going to go throw up now, or take Poly's lead and stab myself in the eye with forks.
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HunnyHer wrote:
Elfe wrote:
At first I was pretty open to the idea of IMVU taking over payments to creators until I received this:

"We failed to inform you that you will not be able to receive your full payout due to hitting your monthly payout limit of $950 based on our payout policy."


That's less than minimum wage. Is there any answer to this?


Was your acct under review? Did they pay you anything? Arrg....I have 2 pretty big request in and I am under review since Wed....still waiting for IMVU to tell me whats up! If they are going to limit us per month they need to say "hey, this is all you can get this month"....how does this leave room for improvement?


Yesterday they had me call their customer support line to verify my identity because my payout was large.

So I went ahead and did that, they then sent me the following message:

"Congratulations and thank you! We are happy to inform you that your account is now verified and eligible for payouts. As such, we have processed your recent payout request and that money should be available in your paypal account shortly. We went ahead and paid you out the $1715 that you requested."

The above message was sent the afternoon of yesterday and I did not get paid that entire day. This morning I sent them a message telling them I did not get paid and asking if there was any sort of time frame, they then sent me this:

"We apologize for the mistake. We failed to inform you that you will not be able to receive your full payout due to hitting your monthly payout limit of $950 based on our payout policy (see link below for additional information). Due to our error, as a courtesy we will process the payout for the full limit plus an additional $200. The money that has not been paid out will be credited back to your available balance and will continue to be available for future payout."

The link that they had sent me for additional information was just the creator payout page, so there was absolutely no information on that page. I haven't found a single page that mentions the payout limit of $950. I don't think IMVU projected the outcome of paying creators themselves, but I hope they can see why resellers were so nice to have.
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galleryHQ wrote:
xolollieox wrote:
I do not understand! I thought they said up to 10.000 $ a month! Or did i read that wrong? Not that I will ever have that much, but I thought that is what they said...... Confused


That is exactly what I thought was said. $10,000

Maybe it's her limit and not a universal limit.

Confused more confused! Can imvu explain this one please? So if one month I make more then an other??...I wont get the money? Or I will get some? I do not know if is worth my time anymore...for real, this is just crazy!
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