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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ok what is going on>>>>>>>>>>
I don't have ANY sales reports listed since 4/30 in my CREDIT INCOME EVENT Report!!!!!!!!!!
STOMPS FEET.........SCREAMS............PULLS SOMEBODIES HAIR and yells WHERES MY MONEY!!!!!!


I just checked mine and they are there....this is getting crazier by the day....I see you guys never got your paypal last night! CRAZY....its pretty much been about 7:30pm CST when its being paid, I thought it was odd when you hadnt got yours by 8:45pm!
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, my bill collectors charge a late fee when things aren't paid on time.


Just sayin'.
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 7:27 am    Post subject: Still Waiting Reply with quote

Just woke up, still broke, still waiting on imvu

By the time they get us paid it will be time to request more payouts that we will be charged fees for...coincidence? Maybe they bit off more than they can chew.....need to find FASTER CHEWERS.

Something shady this was comes as always.....
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whims wrote:
You know, my bill collectors charge a late fee when things aren't paid on time.


Just sayin'.


^^ This^^

Tell them you free lance for IMVU they will either take pity on you and offer u a job or laugh which is what IMVU already does....
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I very rarely ever speak out about anything in the forums. Not for lack of things to say, as anyone who is friends with me on Facebook can attest to, but mainly because I loathe the forums with the white hot intensity of 1000 suns. But that's beside the point.

People are angry. You've taken away a system that was working well for us. It may be that you HAD to take that system away for one reason or another, but doing so sent the entire community into a tailspin. You've ripped away the livelihood of the resellers who have served us well for several years. You've taken the relationships we had built with those resellers and smashed them beneath your heels. You've made it difficult for many fantastic artists and meshers to even keep their shops open. And the hits just keep coming.

Speaking as someone who has spent the last 5 years creating on this site and was just now reaching a point where I might be able to start making a decent income doing this thing that I love...I'm now seriously wondering at this point if those 5 years were wasted.

When the credit pend system was implemented, there were cries of outrage. Those cries were silenced by the notion that the two week period would be much the same as if we were receiving biweekly paychecks from RL jobs. Add to that the fact that, at the time, we weren't required to verify our RL information or provide tax documents in order to receive those payouts and it seemed to be a good compromise in the interest of preventing fraud.

Now, you require us to provide our RL info along with a W9...making us Independent Contractors who are providing a service for IMVU in exchange for RL income, but the 2 week credit pend is still in place. That, in itself would be all well and good if, once we request our payout for the services and materials we've already provided, we were paid without delay. It would still remain equivalent to that biweekly paycheck that appeased us all before. But alas, you're tacking nearly ANOTHER 2 weeks onto that timeframe before we receive the funds owed to us...and you expect us to be okay with this?

There are many people here who rely on this income for their households. These people were overjoyed at the fact that they were able to provide for their families while doing something they enjoy. Such is that old saying "If you can make money doing something you love, you'll never have to work a day in your life." and now that achievement has been ripped away from them along with everything else.

I propose this. The credit pend was implemented in order to prevent fraud because you had no way of knowing who we were in real life and therefore had no way of knowing if we were criminals looking to scam the system in some way. Now, all that's changed. You have our RL information. You have our tax documents. You have our life's blood in the palm of your hands.

If it's going to continue to take this long to process payouts, then DO AWAY WITH THE CREDIT PEND. Of course, keep in in place for those creators who choose not to verify, but there is no reason for that precaution if you already have all of our information. It's not like we can get away with doing something fraudulent when all you have to do is pull our name and address out of your system and point the authorities in our direction. Doing this would bring us back to our "biweekly paycheck" status and end a lot of this anger and animosity.

Of course, I'm not stupid enough to think you'd actually take my suggestion. Heck...in 2014 I cashed in credits 3 times for a total of less than $300 USD, so it's not like this is MY livelihood at this point in time. I just wish that it could be.

People are waiting for the money that they've earned. PAY THEM.


*BUMP*

Just in the hopes that someone from IMVU reads it and a light bulb clicks on in their head.

I don't know what your original intentions were when you started the creator program and certified the resellers, but what actually happened was that people took the tools they were given and rolled with it. They set up successful businesses within IMVU's economy. Some of them even reached the point where they didn't need a RL job and this became their full time income. You watched this happen and you watched the money roll into your pockets that this whole system generated.

Now you've pulled the rug out from under everyone. You're still making YOUR profits. Where the hell are everyone else's?


just gonna bump this some more because yes... :C
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm starting to think my chances of catching Cass's green bunny were better than getting paid by IMVU. DAY 7...still waiting!
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a notice yesterday that they processed my payout and it should be transferred to my PayPal soon. I just checked my PayPal today, and the money is not there yet. How long does it take to send the money?
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I got a notice yesterday that they processed my payout and it should be transferred to my PayPal soon. I just checked my PayPal today, and the money is not there yet. How long does it take to send the money?



Generally not 2 days, the RESELLERS had it there within a few hrs, there may have been a delay for first time sellers but not 7 days.,..,.
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I got a notice yesterday that they processed my payout and it should be transferred to my PayPal soon. I just checked my PayPal today, and the money is not there yet. How long does it take to send the money?


They have been paying at the end of every day but for some reason yesterday they didnt....no one got their pay yesterday
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been waitting 3 days waitting for a payout and the request is still pending.

I used to get paid in few hours on firstmeta exchange just waitting to get a buyer at the rate i want. And almost instantly on other resellers websites.

Clients can buy credits instantly why can't we withrdraw instantly?

On top of that it's the second time i had to wait 14 days! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've been waitting 3 days waitting for a payout and the request is still pending.

I used to get paid in few hours on firstmeta exchange just waitting to get a buyer at the rate i want. And almost instantly on other resellers websites.

Clients can buy credits instantly why can't we withrdraw instantly?

On top of that it's the second time i had to wait 14 days! Evil or Very Mad


Im on day 7 of waiting for payout!
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Im on day 7 of waiting for payout!

That's carzy!

At least with firstmeta exchange i was able to choose the rate i want to sell my credits...

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IMVU’s rate of $0.40 was determined in order to match with or improve upon typical reseller transaction rates.


Developers who switched to money won't spend as much as they did.
Users who can't access cheap credits anymore won't spend as they did.
While still selling at $10 per 10000 Cr IMVU choose the "average" reseller rates !

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Not to mention that i had a very good customer service at my reseller.

And the fact that there is no option to cancel a payout
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MysticSinZ wrote:
Ok what is going on>>>>>>>>>>
I don't have ANY sales reports listed since 4/30 in my CREDIT INCOME EVENT Report!!!!!!!!!!
STOMPS FEET.........SCREAMS............PULLS SOMEBODIES HAIR and yells WHERES MY MONEY!!!!!!


I just checked mine and they are there....this is getting crazier by the day....I see you guys never got your paypal last night! CRAZY....its pretty much been about 7:30pm CST when its being paid, I thought it was odd when you hadnt got yours by 8:45pm![/quote


I just checked Credit Income events and they are u to date now...SMH
Sighs....STILL WAITING on my money to be transferred to paypal.
DAY 8 (Buisness days) no money in PayPal yet.!
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPY wrote:
HunnyHer wrote:

Im on day 7 of waiting for payout!

That's carzy!

At least with firstmeta exchange i was able to choose the rate i want to sell my credits...

Quote:

IMVU’s rate of $0.40 was determined in order to match with or improve upon typical reseller transaction rates.


Developers who switched to money won't spend as much as they did.
Users who can't access cheap credits anymore won't spend as they did.
While still selling at $10 per 10000 Cr IMVU choose the "average" reseller rates !


Just restating for those who haven't heard - IMVU is entering new online markets and believes that their online users is about to swell to 50 millions (also repeating - I'll believe it when I see it). If you stop and put yourself in IMVU's shoes, that should explain the mind set they have when approaching these decisions, as well as how much they really care about appeasing us. Our outrage and concerns vs. 50 million ignorant new vict- er, users puts us in the red-headed stepchild minority.

Now, also keep in mind, if they are correct in their projections (uh-huh), or even only 10% correct in their projections, people should keep in mind that creators are going to benefit.

But people should also keep in mind that with said swelling of users, we're also going to see a swelling in people trying to break into online developing. The catalog is going to become bloated to biblical proportions, a storm of unorganized chaos which will bury even the most popular ever creators catalog as if Godzilla knocked a skyscraper on an ant hill. People should be looking forward and asking, "Where the (fill in word that would get your posting deleted from the forums here) is the catalog re-org IMVU promised when the catalog was at the 8 million mark?

IF IMVU believes that this market swell is going to happen, then they need to take their money and apply it to their product in a significant manner. The catalog needs to be reorganized, and a tool needs to be added to allow for a user to report a miscatagorized item to be put back where it belongs, and staff needs to be hired who will actually care about said reorganization and not say, 'What do I care? I'm a person living in a 2nd world country and making a cup of coffee's worth of money daily. *Rubber stamping sound effect*"
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It honestly wouldn't surprise me to see IMVU users swell to those numbers. But what I do suspect might end up happening in the not too distant future (just as this little surprise wasn't actually a surprise since we were all asking for it for years now - that's the registration and verification thing) we will probably soon see IMVU decide not to verify new creators for the payment scheme if they can determine how many creators are willing to create for fun and not for cash returns. My bet is there are many more users who would play IMVU for fun, create and spend their credits than most realize.

As long as they safeguard those creators who do get verified and want to continue creating for cash then i'm happy! Very Happy Very Happy
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