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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The answers are there why they did this. This is part of the US tax system. If you have ever had to do taxes that are very involved, you may have an understanding of how this all works.

I spent two hours waiting to talk to the IRS in February about a tax question I had.

You really need to do some research on this issue on the net, it is all there in black and white to read.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't really care if I was the only person in the countless threads on this topic.

One of the joys of the forums: people are allowed to voice their opinion on the topic at hand.

While there are the people that are upset with it.. there are those that are welcoming it.

People can spin things in whatever manner they wish.. but like anything. It's up to each individual to figure out how the changes will work for or against them.

- Do I think some people are literally worried about having to give out their sensitive information.. Sure I do, but that takes me back to how many of these same people have NEVER done any kind of online transactions?

- Do I think some people are upset because now the IRS is saying.. if you're making money.. it's time to stop trying to hide your earnings? Of course I do.. but there is that wonderful thing called TAX EVASION.

Those that are talking about going over to SL.. they have the same system in place as far as needing to fill out forms for the IRS.

- Do I think people are worried about IMVU getting hacked? Yup. Once again.. they stand just as much a chance on getting hacked and broken into as ANY OTHER site. The ONLY secure system is one that is not plugged in.

I have 2 computers.. this one that is open to being hacked.. try and hack my other one. It's not going to happen, and I don't care how good of a hacker someone is.. it's not connected to the net. making it 100% safe from hackers Smile

It can be called telling people to take this on the chin.. people are entitled to their choice of words.. the fact remains.. that it's happening and it's going to continue to go forward. People can be upset with the change.. I'll admit I was at first. But I am actually looking forward to these changes and can't wait to see how it all plays out.

If people leave.. oh well.. maybe that will make way for new creators. I have nothing against seeing new faces.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about to make it more fair to creators you offer 50/100k and also get rid of the multiple unneeded currencies you have going on here at imvu we don't need tokens we don't need free credits change it to one currency and make it worth it for our hard work.

This was in the realm of discussion of what was said could be changed and debated.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we still had resellers this wouldn't be much of a problem. I'm just more annoyed about how it affects buying art & things that aren't bought through imvu's catalog.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fervent wrote:
TheLaw wrote:
Someone should report this help ticket thing to the relevant authority so IMVU can be slapped with a nice, big fine for violating data protection laws.


Calypsio wrote:
TheLaw wrote:
Literally the only two people in this thread expecting people to lie down and take a change which is clearly out of line and the whole reasoning is probably a lie spinned by IMVU. Nice.


Another thing which pisses me off. If the IRS was demanding this change then IMVU should have been up front about that fact right from the beginning. They should not have masqueraded around saying "oh but the users asked for this" and "oh but it is to stop theft." That sort of deception is going to bite them back one day.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still Curious
Vexxen wrote:
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Now what about being able to turn credits into money?
considering that the short time IMVU has given resellers and devs.. alot of us are stuck with alot of credits that will just sit there and taunt us forever.
How many threads before that gets looked into? XD


Jibrielle wrote:

I still want to see a way for artists to continue making money with this new system. The sticker option probably wont last that long. I haven't come up with any suggestions yet that would work and not have any loopholes for thieves, UFI sellers and people doing fraud. People should probably start brainstorming and sharing their ideas while IMVU is still building the system.


MR5OG5HOYONIBULL3T wrote:

ok i see...so isnt there a way for taxes and forms to be filled out with resellers..that way know one loses there job?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How about to make it more fair to creators you offer 50/100k and also get rid of the multiple unneeded currencies you have going on here at imvu we don't need tokens we don't need free credits change it to one currency and make it worth it for our hard work.

This was in the realm of discussion of what was said could be changed and debated.


This would be a cash out cow for people if IMVU just made all credits real credits.

People could make X number of accounts.. but a sticker from a main account and the main account could just keep racking in the money.

This would be a VERY BAD thing for IMVU to do.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calypsio wrote:
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Does anyone even trust IMVU with their details after that security breach posted in the issues and bug reporting forum? Someone was able to see someone else's personal information. There is apparently even an exploit where one person can see another persons help tickets without even needing to login to their account.

Does this not worry anyone? That someone can potentially view your SSN which was attached to the form you just gave up in a help ticket? They can view your tax information too and everything else on the form.

I can't be the only one outraged by this, right?


Update. Other people are now seeing help tickets belonging to other users with personal information in them. A screenshot was posted in that thread.

IMVU this is unacceptable and it has gotten out of hand.


i've been trying to find this screenshot, but i haven't been able to find it anywhere :/
anyone have an idea?? i just really want to see it .. unless it removed..
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely people are annoyed, income now is reported and not *under the table*.

Extra income in some families is going to have a lot of ramifications.

People on different types of aid systems in the US can only make so much extra money.
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Any new updates? Just woke up.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fervent wrote:
Calypsio wrote:
Calypsio wrote:
Does anyone even trust IMVU with their details after that security breach posted in the issues and bug reporting forum? Someone was able to see someone else's personal information. There is apparently even an exploit where one person can see another persons help tickets without even needing to login to their account.

Does this not worry anyone? That someone can potentially view your SSN which was attached to the form you just gave up in a help ticket? They can view your tax information too and everything else on the form.

I can't be the only one outraged by this, right?


Update. Other people are now seeing help tickets belonging to other users with personal information in them. A screenshot was posted in that thread.

IMVU this is unacceptable and it has gotten out of hand.


i've been trying to find this screenshot, but i haven't been able to find it anywhere :/
anyone have an idea?? i just really want to see it .. unless it removed..


Facebook RainofEverMorn, and IMVU miscellany under the IMVU breach thread.
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Jibrielle wrote:
Any new updates? Just woke up.

It's the weekend, do they even work weekends?
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Jibrielle wrote:
Any new updates? Just woke up.


nothing besides the fact that we're heading to thread #6
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jibrielle wrote:
Any new updates? Just woke up.

Not any that I know of. But I do see the amount of people on IMVU dropping by the ten thousands, etc, XD
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I have 2 computers.. this one that is open to being hacked.. try and hack my other one. It's not going to happen, and I don't care how good of a hacker someone is.. it's not connected to the net. making it 100% safe from hackers Smile


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