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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:31 am    Post subject: Official "Let Us Trade, Sell, Give Away, Return Our Stu Reply with quote

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Official ‘Let Us Trade, Sell, Give Away, Return Our Unused Products’ Thread.

Currently IMVU does not allow the sale, trade or return of any purchased goods.

This thread is for consolidating the ideas and the pros and cons of implanting such a system. Any spam or personal attacks will be removed. Keep the discussion to the ideas presented and not the people presenting them. Do not presume any ideas expressed here are IMVU’s official position on the matter, we are all merely users here and can only express our personal opinions on the subject.

Whether IMVU will implement any such program in the future is ultimately IMVU’s decision. All we as users can do is share our ideas and our reasoning for them. Please feel free to provide constructive criticism to the ideas presented as we want to hear all sides. However, do not presume to speak for IMVU.


Please keep the thread on topic about suggesting and debating ideas regarding trading, selling, giving away and returning the products from our inventories. Any other subjects raised will be considered as off topic and will be removed. Thank you.

First thread on this subject: Here.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel like this would be a good idea. What came to my mind is hackers and what they would accomplish from this. Like say if someone hacked into someone's account and refunded everything and took the credits. Unless if the refunded credits are promo, but I don't see that being fair if you bought it with real credits.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As one person posted:

Developers hold all rights to any content that they have submitted to IMVU. When you buy something from a dev, you're not buying the product you are buying a licence to use that product indefinitely. Every single product you have in your inventory could be destroyed by the developer in the morning if they wanted to, and that would be their right because they own the content. You have no resell rights over that item since you don't actually own it, you're just permanently renting it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friends and I played second life for a little while and they have a way to give products that you own in your inventory. Once I purchase something on here if I no longer wear it or use it for whatever reason, I should be able to give it to someone else. Maybe imvu can set a limit but I thought it was great for SL to allow that.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:07 am    Post subject: Yes & No. Reply with quote

I Agree With This But I Also Don't. I Agree Because We ALL Have Stuff We Don't Use Which We Can Return. But Also There Is A Reason You Need To Try Before Buying.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SL is an Open World Chat MMO, similar to World Of Warcraft. Naturally chat sites that are Open World are going to have such features. IMVU is not like that and as I posted before.

The Developer owns the rights to every item that is bought, the person who bought the item just merely bought the rights to wear or to use it. Not resell it.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an idea, and i'm just submitting it, why don't you make a feature (or just add this with a package), which's not that expensive and allows people to get back some credits from the licence ? It will be their call to choose to spend some money to resell old stuff.

Like 5objects per pass/package per example
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The issue with selling back, is that the creator makes one product, and it sells to everyone that buys it. The creator wouldn't actually get the product BACK from you if you sold it. I don't think sell-back would be good, creators would become discouraged from creating, because they'd end up losing money -- since logically it would come out of their pocket.

Imvu -- more than likely, wouldn't just pick up the tab and throw credits at you just because you decide you don't want something anymore.

Trading between friends, however.

Of course there would need to be rules, but I think that would be easy enough to come up with.

I mean, say I have a dress, it's been sitting in my inventory for a year - but a friend of mine really likes it. I should be able to gift them that dress, from my inventory.

IMVU and the Creators don't lose out - because the dress was still only purchased once, I do not have a copy, and if I decided that I wanted one down the road, I'd have to go out and buy it.

Ideas for rules on trading between friends?

--- They must be on your friendslist
--- They must not be a Guest_ account (Which nixes people trying to just make new accounts over and over so they can give themselves clothes)
--- Purchase must not have been made with promo credits (if there's a way to see that? I'm sure there is)
--- The item can only be traded once a month - which would prevent people just trading the same thing back and forth.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree because we have stuff we want to give away to people and we should get the amount we paid for when we returned and we should be able to trade r stuff giveivng to us by imvu
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about offering it at half price ,,,,when sold its removed from your inventory and the dev gets half of it and you do ,,ie 25% each of original price ,set up a swap shop section or pre-owned section in shop ,that way at least dev would get something back to ,and clear a few things from our inventory ,which is just adding to memory space this site uses on our pc's
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As one person posted:

Developers hold all rights to any content that they have submitted to IMVU. When you buy something from a dev, you're not buying the product you are buying a licence to use that product indefinitely.

Every single product you have in your inventory could be destroyed by the developer in the morning if they wanted to, and that would be their right because they own the content. You have no resell rights over that item since you don't actually own it, you're just permanently renting it.

Simply Put:

The item you bought in the catalog can be altered the next day or the mesh completely broken because you do not own it outright. All you have bought is the license to use the item.

Not Resell It!

And besides, most developers on here would not want someone who did not put their time and credits into item and submitting it to the catalog benefitting from their work. Granted you may have spent credits buy the item. However, the developer has spent their time making the item and then paying Derivation Fees, IMVU's Mark-Up price (which is to submit the item into the catalog) and then the profit price.

After paying for all that, you think it's fair to the developers that their stuff be re-sold off by someone who didn't even pay for it go into the catalog and they get nothing or only half.

I think it's safe to say not many developers would happy about that and if IMVU ever allowed it, you would find a lot of developers would simply break their items or hide them and hightail it from IMVU.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So lemme put a personal spin on the reason I want something like this put into effect. I'm pretty OCD about my inventory and I tend to find a developer I like and buy them all out and move onto the next. That way I know exactly what I've purchased and from who. Maybe it's just me, just the way I work, who knows. Anywho, if IMVU could create some sort of new temporary pass/credit/token that would allow me to return all my things that'd be great. I would not be looking for the credits back to sell for cash or anything. I would just want to return my whole inventory and then buy from one dev at a time. That way my inventory would be very organized and there would be no unnecessary junk that I didn't use or need. Like, say, I returned all the items I own in my inventory. I then would receive temporary or even a sort of imaginary credits. So, say my inventory was worth... let's say 50,000 credits. I would return all the items and receive 50,000 "imaginary credits" that I would then go and spend on a developer that I wanted to buy from. If only IMVU could make it so the developers of the products I was returning didn't suffer..
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TruDestiniBlckRebel5 wrote:
My friends and I played second life for a little while and they have a way to give products that you own in your inventory. Once I purchase something on here if I no longer wear it or use it for whatever reason, I should be able to give it to someone else. Maybe imvu can set a limit but I thought it was great for SL to allow that.


On Second Life you cannot give away all your inventory.
Are 3 kind of products: Transfer, Copy and Mod.

Copyable does not mean you can make copies and give it away.
You will have copies for your own backup in your own inventory, as SL objects are much complex and come in different sizes and alphas.

When you buy a transferrable product you can give it away (transfer) to only 1 account, but you have no right to copy or modify it, it automatically disappears from your inventory.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TruDestiniBlckRebel5 wrote:
My friends and I played second life for a little while and they have a way to give products that you own in your inventory. Once I purchase something on here if I no longer wear it or use it for whatever reason, I should be able to give it to someone else. Maybe imvu can set a limit but I thought it was great for SL to allow that.


On Second Life you cannot give away all your inventory.
Are 3 kind of products: Transfer, Copy and Mod.

Copyable does not mean you can make copies and give it away.
You will have copies for your own backup in your own inventory, as SL objects are much complex and come in different sizes and alphas.

When you buy a transferrable product you can give it away (transfer) to only 1 account, but you have no right to copy or modify it, it automatically disappears from your inventory.


What people need to understand is that item the inventory are not transferable and only the Developer can modify it because they completely own the rights to the item.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All we need is to be able to delete; not hide, delete. No trading, no selling, no refund. If you buy it and don't want it later, trash it and that's it.

Selling really shouldn't even be a consideration, I work hard to create my product why should someone else get to sell it and make money off my work? As mentioned already: the developer owns the product and all rights to it.

Refunds will just hurt sales. For instance, a 660cr top, that only gives about 100cr profit to the developer. The refund would come from the developer not IMVU which makes the profit -560cr. Even if only the developer#s profit of 100cr were to be refunded that's still 100cr they're losing.

Trading basically is giving the product for free. 2 people having the product but only the sale from one, that's not fair. If the second person wants my product, they need to buy it also, not just get it for free (or at the cost of one of their inventory items) from trading.

Back to my original point: all we need is to be able to delete. If we don't want it any longer: trash it. Removed from our inventories and no hurts to sales. And yes, I understand hackers but we still need the delete.
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