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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You spend more in the earlier stages of developing or if you sales are low.
I submit 2-4 products every week/every 2 weeks depending on my inspiration and my mood,which costs me for 4 products around 2880cr-3100cr.
I get those back with sales 2 to 3 days after I submitted them.So I make a small profit.I'm saying small because the majority of my income goes back into newer products.It's always different for every developer,some make barely enough,some don't make enough and some make more then enough.
It's just the way it always was,you first spend more until you can get enough sales.it's the same with a new business too,they spend more too until they are a known brand or go out of business.

Developers already said many times that imvu has to change the credits they get for sales,they won't listen.Every time you see a thread about high prices this problem comes up.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Way wrote:
You spend more in the earlier stages of developing or if you sales are low.
I submit 2-4 products every week/every 2 weeks depending on my inspiration and my mood,which costs me for 4 products around 2880cr-3100cr.
I get those back with sales 2 to 3 days after I submitted them.So I make a small profit.I'm saying small because the majority of my income goes back into newer products.It's always different for every developer,some make barely enough,some don't make enough and some make more then enough.
It's just the way it always was,you first spend more until you can get enough sales.it's the same with a new business too,they spend more too until they are a known brand or go out of business.

Developers already said many times that imvu has to change the credits they get for sales,they won't listen.Every time you see a thread about high prices this problem comes up.


Hmm.. Thanks ^-^, I understand that. Maybe i should look more into the developer side of things. You have actually encouraged me to buy credits, even though I could get by on promo. I hope they get the credits fixed for developers. Thanks again, good luck with you business and have an amazing weekend!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so stupid, thanks IMVU. thanks. NOT
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you serious? No more free credits?
We can watch videos and complete offers, but in the end, we earned those credits.

I suppose this would be a good thing for developers who are selling their products, however, as I am not selling any products, I don't really see this as something positive.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the majority of people on IMVU do not sell products.

Can we at least get the pet feature back? :/ i so agree with this! An let not forget to mention the cost of music or the fact that what we paid for can only be used if someone is in a room with you? Such crap, i dropped my vip account an buy it prepaid just not worth the 9.99 a month charge an dev make something that dont look like its been made over an over i want to see some new an exciting stuff for what you charge this dosnt aply to all dev, you know what i mean peace out! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:49 am    Post subject: so how do u get the coind then? Reply with quote

how do u get the coins then as i for one noticed the login rewards not incresing my cash so how do i earn it?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:13 am    Post subject: imvu stopped give daily credits Reply with quote

imvu is getting really boring for some of the users because they stopped gaving out daily creds.what will the people who dont have enough money to buy credits do. I think dey should start back giving out daily credits because what dey are doing here makes no sense.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: imvu stopped give daily credits Reply with quote

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imvu is getting really boring for some of the users because they stopped gaving out daily creds.what will the people who dont have enough money to buy credits do. I think dey should start back giving out daily credits because what dey are doing here makes no sense.


I totally Agree with you.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: imvu stopped give daily credits Reply with quote

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imvu is getting really boring for some of the users because they stopped gaving out daily creds.what will the people who dont have enough money to buy credits do. I think dey should start back giving out daily credits because what dey are doing here makes no sense.


Imvu is about chatting with other people,not how many many free credits you get.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay this is not alright. First you take away the spinfree, daily products page and pets and now the login rewards are gone? Thats not really fair. Not all of us can always afford to buy credits and those "free offers" contain viruses and intrusive avertising. Why not get rid of THAT instead?? I mean we're not millionaires.. Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a much better solution to all of this and even saw a few very logical and decent solutions in this very thread that would make this company prosper in a positive way, but when a company such as this is run by greed, they care about nothing else but their own greed.

Should any kind of change affect IMVU in a positive way that doesn't fully involve money going into THEIR pockets (or at all for that matter), then they won't do it.

Their soul purpose is gaining as much money as possible for their own benefit, and if that means sacrificing an x amount of users to do it, then they will do just that.

I love IMVU, but it's one of those sites that's corrupt. It's just as bad as any other corporation. This one is no different.

And for those of you that are complaining about users that are not developers that are whiners that keep wanting free credits and want everything for nothing, have you tried looking at it from THEIR point of view instead of your own?

The biggest problem is most people right now cannot afford to buy credits. Yes, credits can be earned, and yes I know they can be earned through PR, but not everyone has the time of day to be on IMVU for hours just to earn the daily cr limit via PR as I mentioned in a previous post in this thread.

And if the surveys and videos section was working (which it's not working for everyone), I don't think there would be much of a complaint from users (includes devs)! Not to mention, you don't always get cr from doing offers where a lot of the time you have to give up personal information just to be spammed via email and mail at your house and sometimes even phone just to earn a few credits.

ITS NOT WORTH IT!

So again, for those of you complaining that we're whiners, try and understand and see it from our point of view. We're not asking for 1k a day, that's a bit much.
What we're asking for is safer and more reliable ways other than PR to earn cr that won't harm our computers! Most of us can't afford a new computer let alone the ability to buy cr. And all those offers are nothing but spyware, adware, and malware and who knows what else all designed to destroy your computer.

And like I said, if the offers weren't full of spyware, adware, and malware and worked half the time, I doubt there'd be as many complaints as there are right now.

And while another user said that IMVU is a social network to chat with people and that cr don't matter... As true as that may be, being able to make our avatars anything we want and participate in 3D chat client is the soul purpose of this site, which is the purpose for the credits to buy stuff and which is the purpose of the developers to make stuff for people like me and others to buy from them.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1- PR doesn't take hours,unless you take a 15 minute break after every review,because lets face it,it's so hard Rolling Eyes
2- We don't have to see from your point of view and you know why because we have been there already.
Everybody was new at one point even developers,I bought my first credits 2 or 3 months after joining and I didn't buy them constantly.
I did fine on promo credits for awhile and when I joined there were less ways to earn them and you got less promos then you get now.
3-The site wasn't meant to give you easy and many promo credits just so you can get everything you want for free or else imvu would be out of business by now.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Way wrote:
1- PR doesn't take hours,unless you take a 15 minute break after every review,because lets face it,it's so hard Rolling Eyes
2- We don't have to see from your point of view and you know why because we have been there already.
Everybody was new at one point even developers,I bought my first credits 2 or 3 months after joining and I didn't buy them constantly.
I did fine on promo credits for awhile and when I joined there were less ways to earn them and you got less promos then you get now.
3-The site wasn't meant to give you easy and many promo credits just so you can get everything you want for free or else imvu would be out of business by now.


I agree with what you have had to say throughout this thread. At least a lot of it... But to be honest, you complaining about predits isn't much better than the non-devs complaining about predits. And you don't have to be 'quite' so angry and malicious sounding in your replies. You can explain your point of view to someone without beating them down or being unnecessarily harsh. As a matter of fact, when you explain your point with kindness and patience, often, people are much more responsive and willing to listen to your thought. Take it or leave it, it's just an observation from a lot of personal experience. Don't forget that some of these people you are talking to are 14-18 year old KIDS who really DON'T understand what IMVU does to their Devs, or how unfair it is to you. It's not their fault, they're not trying to be insensitive or cruel, they just don't know any better. =)

The truth is, it is not the users, nor the devs who are the problem.
It's IMVU as a corporation.
Somewhere along the way, they made some terrible decisions.

I have had THIS account since September 2007. I have been using IMVU since I was 14-15, so, since 2003 ish? I purchased my avatar name, and purchased AP when I was 19-20. I have spent a ton of money (over time) on legitimate credits. (usually from 3rd party sites run by Devs trying to sell off their extra credits. I would like to give my money DIRECTLY to developers- and cut IMVU out of the loop as much as possible.) I think that gives me a pretty good perspective on IMVU's trending.


During times when IMVU is running promotions and giving free credits away, there is a stark increase in user activity. As has been mentioned before, a lot of teens can not do PR, don't have a credit card to purchase credits with, and aren't eligible for many of the offers.

No, IMVU is not all about getting everything you want for free- BUT- the "starter" stuff IMVU gives you, face it, is crap... It's crappy crap. It's crappy crap that neither you nor I have probably used ANY of in YEARS.

When I first started, I bought everything with promo credits. When I found out what that meant for the Devs- anytime I would purchase something with the predits, I would send the dev a message I had saved in a word file that was something along the lines of;

"Hello _____. I am writing you this message to inform you that I recently purchased your product _____ with promo credits. I am sorry to do this to you. I understand that IMVU does not treat you fairly or compensate you for these credits, but I am under 18 years old, and can not acquire "normal" credits as I am not eligible for the offers, quizzes, and do not have a credit card. Your product _____ is great! I left you a review and 5 stars, which is a very small compensation, but it is the best I can do for you in the circumstance. I wear my outfits publicly, so anyone who sees your product and likes it, will be able to go and get it for themselves. Again, I am terribly sorry for not being able to support your work properly, but I really do enjoy it, and I hope you continue making beautiful products to include in the IMVU catalog."

9 times out of 10, I would get a very kindly message from the Dev back, thanking me for the support, and reassuring me that it was 'okay' I was not able to use real credits. And to just please remember their products when I was able to fully participate in the community.

The truth is, There shouldn't even BE "promo credits" There should be CREDITS. Period. You buy them, or you earn them doing PR, offers, daily log in whatever. And the Devs get paid their due.

Giving teens a way to EARN free credits by logging in or doing tasks will HOOK THEM into using the program- then, when they get older, get jobs, have money, they will be able to buy legitimate credits. But, unless you provide a free and easy way for people to really get into the spirit of the community, "the hook" they never get interested and leave, and then NEVER spend money on credits. This is counter-productive.

I understand that a developers instant reaction to the injustice that IMVU inflicts on them is to be angry. But direct your anger where it belongs - the greedy and illogical top dogs working for IMVU who make these decisions- NOT the community who loves and supports your work.

That's my two cents. Take it or leave it, but either way, give it a good hard thought.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XxAngelVIIxX wrote:
Way wrote:
1- PR doesn't take hours,unless you take a 15 minute break after every review,because lets face it,it's so hard Rolling Eyes
2- We don't have to see from your point of view and you know why because we have been there already.
Everybody was new at one point even developers,I bought my first credits 2 or 3 months after joining and I didn't buy them constantly.
I did fine on promo credits for awhile and when I joined there were less ways to earn them and you got less promos then you get now.
3-The site wasn't meant to give you easy and many promo credits just so you can get everything you want for free or else imvu would be out of business by now.


I agree with what you have had to say throughout this thread. At least a lot of it... But to be honest, you complaining about predits isn't much better than the non-devs complaining about predits. And you don't have to be 'quite' so angry and malicious sounding in your replies. You can explain your point of view to someone without beating them down or being unnecessarily harsh. As a matter of fact, when you explain your point with kindness and patience, often, people are much more responsive and willing to listen to your thought. Take it or leave it, it's just an observation from a lot of personal experience. Don't forget that some of these people you are talking to are 14-18 year old KIDS who really DON'T understand what IMVU does to their Devs, or how unfair it is to you. It's not their fault, they're not trying to be insensitive or cruel, they just don't know any better. =)

The truth is, it is not the users, nor the devs who are the problem.
It's IMVU as a corporation.
Somewhere along the way, they made some terrible decisions.

I have had THIS account since September 2007. I have been using IMVU since I was 14-15, so, since 2003 ish? I purchased my avatar name, and purchased AP when I was 19-20. I have spent a ton of money (over time) on legitimate credits. (usually from 3rd party sites run by Devs trying to sell off their extra credits. I would like to give my money DIRECTLY to developers- and cut IMVU out of the loop as much as possible.) I think that gives me a pretty good perspective on IMVU's trending.


During times when IMVU is running promotions and giving free credits away, there is a stark increase in user activity. As has been mentioned before, a lot of teens can not do PR, don't have a credit card to purchase credits with, and aren't eligible for many of the offers.

No, IMVU is not all about getting everything you want for free- BUT- the "starter" stuff IMVU gives you, face it, is crap... It's crappy crap. It's crappy crap that neither you nor I have probably used ANY of in YEARS.

When I first started, I bought everything with promo credits. When I found out what that meant for the Devs- anytime I would purchase something with the predits, I would send the dev a message I had saved in a word file that was something along the lines of;

"Hello _____. I am writing you this message to inform you that I recently purchased your product _____ with promo credits. I am sorry to do this to you. I understand that IMVU does not treat you fairly or compensate you for these credits, but I am under 18 years old, and can not acquire "normal" credits as I am not eligible for the offers, quizzes, and do not have a credit card. Your product _____ is great! I left you a review and 5 stars, which is a very small compensation, but it is the best I can do for you in the circumstance. I wear my outfits publicly, so anyone who sees your product and likes it, will be able to go and get it for themselves. Again, I am terribly sorry for not being able to support your work properly, but I really do enjoy it, and I hope you continue making beautiful products to include in the IMVU catalog."

9 times out of 10, I would get a very kindly message from the Dev back, thanking me for the support, and reassuring me that it was 'okay' I was not able to use real credits. And to just please remember their products when I was able to fully participate in the community.

The truth is, There shouldn't even BE "promo credits" There should be CREDITS. Period. You buy them, or you earn them doing PR, offers, daily log in whatever. And the Devs get paid their due.

Giving teens a way to EARN free credits by logging in or doing tasks will HOOK THEM into using the program- then, when they get older, get jobs, have money, they will be able to buy legitimate credits. But, unless you provide a free and easy way for people to really get into the spirit of the community, "the hook" they never get interested and leave, and then NEVER spend money on credits. This is counter-productive.

I understand that a developers instant reaction to the injustice that IMVU inflicts on them is to be angry. But direct your anger where it belongs - the greedy and illogical top dogs working for IMVU who make these decisions- NOT the community who loves and supports your work.

That's my two cents. Take it or leave it, but either way, give it a good hard thought.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XxAngelVIIxX wrote:

The truth is, There shouldn't even BE "promo credits" There should be CREDITS. Period. You buy them, or you earn them doing PR, offers, daily log in whatever. And the Devs get paid their due.


This I agree with but it has to be moderate,if it would be a daily thing no one needed to buy credits anymore.

For the rest,you need to keep in mind my mother language isn't english.
My english is good but not perfect.I use the first words/putting sentences together that come to my mind which has the end result of me sounding harsher sometimes then I really meant it to be.

As for kids/teens not knowing about the problems promos can create,imvu should educate them.There would be still complains that there aren't enough ways to get promos but it would be a bit less and less dramatic when they change/remove a way to get them.

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Way wrote:

For the rest,you need to keep in mind my mother language isn't english.
My english is good but not perfect.I use the first words/putting sentences together that come to my mind which has the end result of me sounding harsher sometimes then I really meant it to be.


WOW! I only assumed you had a harsh tone because your English is so good, I never would have guessed it was a second language for you! I am very impressed!

I'm not advocating that there be hundreds of free credits all the time for everyone, YAY! >_<' You are absolutely correct in that it WOULD keep people from purchasing as many. However, I think that SOMEWHERE, there's GOT to be a happy middle ground where the users, the devs, and the IMVU corporation can all be satisfied. And that's what the evolution of a company is really all about. Finding a way to make consumer AND the producer happy with the outcome.

With offers and advertisements, IMVU is still making money - from the advertisers. They are also making money every single time a non VIP (or grandfathered in from name purchasing) individual enters in a new chat room. They also I believe (Please, correct me if I am wrong) make a sum of money for every product put into the market to be available for purchase, and for each purchase of each product, they get a percent.

In other words, if you sell a product for say, 1,000 credits, it would cost more like 2,000 credits to post it to begin with, and every time someone purchases your product, IMVU gets a percent (I don't know how much, but for the example I will say 10% ? ) So you only get 900 of the credits, and IMVU get 100.

The cost to make badges is 10k per 1x1 square, right? Unless there's a sale going on. That means if a dev wants to make an ad for themselves, that's another 10,000 credits gone, that didn't really cost IMVU anything, but a tiny bit of server space. And you get a 1x1 block that for advertisement purposes, kind of blends in with the other badges a person chooses to display. A 2x5 badge (the largest there is I believe?) would cost you 100,000k..... Badges take a LOT of credits out of the market. Badges are a great 'dump' for all of these extra credits that corporate is complaining about being loose in the market.

My long winded point, is that regardless, IMVU is GOING to make their money. And with all of these promotional credit debates, the only ones getting hurt are the Devs and the community.

There are people who LITERALLY make a living posting these lovely things we enjoy, we use to express ourselves in a very tangible way, we love to the market. IMVU is my run away from real life drama. When work, school, and other things pile up, and I need a break, IMVU is what I do.

I fail to see how the community as a whole has not become more outraged at the treatment Devs get. If the trend continues, all of our favorite devs will get sick of it, and find ulterior outlets for their creative and technical prowess, and desert the community. Then, there wont be any nice, shiny, new things for the community to enjoy. That's a loose, loose, loose situation, and I'm afraid it's the one that the community is spiraling towards right now.

Tempers get hot, everyone has valid points - Even IMVU. Yes, they can be a bit greedy, but with everything that was put into the launch and development of it, they are not Angels- they simply want to reap as much benefit from the efforts of their labor as possible- same as the Devs do.

I just think everyone's getting mad, selfish, and closed-minded, and it's making everyone not think logically. If IMVU does not keep their devs and users happy, they loose everything.

There are a TON of really talented, creative, intelligent, hard working, and all around brilliant people in this community. It's what's kept me coming back for so long. I just think that if we could all be a little more open-minded, we might be able to actually find a resolution, instead of just complaining about the problems. Embarassed

Sorry for the giant wall of text, but I figure anyone who actually reads it genuinely cares enough to do so. And it's a rather important issue, at least on the scale of the IMVU community. I LIKE being able to have friends all over the world that I connect with on a near daily basis. I don't want to see my digital community crumble around me.

Though I do not like every person I have met on IMVU, not by far, we are all still supporting the same community, and it's only through everyones support that the community is able to continue.
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