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Do You Think IMVU Should Add the Age Verification Feature to ALL Users of IMVU?
Yes, I think this would be a great idea.
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No, I do not think this is nesscesary.
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AmaranthaAstolat 18+ Age Verified

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:13 am    Post subject: Age Verification for ALL IMVU Users Reply with quote

Hello, everyone. I'm here to suggest that IMVU have age verification fpr ALL users of IMVU, due to that fact that there are predators and people pretending to be young to harass other users. I have previously dealt with some users who have been been very rude and inconsiderate to my friends and I and they have said things that could've hurt these people in real life. I think that it is vital for the younger users to further protect their safety and otherwise improve the enjoyment of the chat service. If this seems like a good idea, I'd like to have it in affect ASAP. I thank you kindly for reading this message, and I hope you all have a wonderful day. Smile
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LordRiccardo 18+ Age Verified

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the thing though Age Verification doesn't verify anything with any accuracy what so ever. All it does is demonstrate the fact IMVU was shown documentation to the effect of a persons name and birth. It at no point what so ever proves that the person behind the documentation is in fact the person who sent IMVU those documents. There are stacks and stacks of accounts on here that are age verified and were verified using other peoples ID's.
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Jagged 18+ Age Verified

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My answer is no.
a) Age Verification is a joke. Anyone can use an older sibling's or a parent's documents and get age verified.
b) For people outside the U.S., the age verification process is a bit more complicated than just sending in the last 4 digits of their social security number. They have to send imvu their personal documents (id card, passport etc), and trust a company like this with their safekeeping.

As for predators, there is nothing stopping them from giving already age verified account to minors.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although really seems like an excellent idea, but it's quite difficult to carry out. As some mentioned before, anybody could send IMVU fake IDs or documentation to obtain the "Age Verified". So anyway, I do not think this is a good strategy to stop both children pretending to be adults and adults who just want to cause damage. Moreover, I would suggest is that IMVU need enforce the security policies as well as IMVU sexual harassment. Also create a program to educate or remind all users how to avoid being harassed and the different measures needed to be taken in the event of being victims of this problem. An educated community is a healthy community.. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If everyone had to verify their ages hardly anyone would bother to sign up for imvu, so from a business standpoint this is a bad idea.
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AnakaTarren VIP Club Member 18+ Age Verified

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part of the problem is that IMVU encourages minors to lie about their ages by only allowing adult users to safely earn credits through Peer Review, which minor accounts are NOT allowed to participate in.

Until IMVU stops paying minors to lie about their ages and instead provides minors with SAFE ways * to earn equivalent income on accounts using their real ages, I believe minors with adult accounts will continue to be a serious problem.



* Many partner offers are NOT safe, especially since so many are actually scams to obtain your private information to match up and sell to big companies (like PeopleFinders and Intellius). Did you ever stop to wonder how those companies got the info to match real names to avatar names, info they sell to anybody with $35 to $50? No company can afford to give out credits unless they are either selling something legitimate (like Netflix) or selling YOUR info on the back end.
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NiiPuu 18+ Age Verified

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I've read from this- I'm guessing you mean that minors would have to have their age verified as well. But there is an issue with this, minors wouldn't be able too or let alone allowed to submit private documents to a company in order just to use a site. Therefore IMVU would loose it's family-oriented status since there wouldn't be under-aged users on here at all, and become more of another "all-adult" site. :I They'll lose quite a bit of income over this.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is very easy for you to ask for Age verification for all, since you live in the US, and all you have to provide is your social security number. All other countries have to send in copies of their personal identification documents. Such documents are sent via CS as well. They are not true employees of imvu either. They are subcontracted from Phillipines.

While the US has electronic age verification from a proper company skilled in identity checks, other countries do not have such luxury. We must brave CS which is from a poor country, where identity theft might be a big lure.
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Serpantha 18+ Age Verified

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't live in America, so I don't have a SS number. Do I trust IMVU with a scan of my passport ? Um, no.
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RinaFanel 18+ Age Verified

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off topic: Anaka IMVU doesn't encourage anything, it is a problem that all of the internet has. No company based over the net, which is a globally anonymous system where EVERY USER lies, to skirt federal regulations. Believe me there are companies that are paid to check. If IMVU actually did encourage that behavior then we wouldn't still have the site.

On topic: no as others have stared it is impossible to do over an anonymous system.
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AnakaTarren VIP Club Member 18+ Age Verified

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RinaFanel13,

As long as IMVU isn't going to require age verification for adult accounts (and they aren't!), it's not off topic to point out a major reason for minors wanting adult accounts is Peer Review and the easy/safe credits that aren't available to minor accounts.

That's as dumb as putting bags of candy on your front door step on Halloween with a sign that says "adult only," going inside and shutting the door, and then claiming hordes of kids didn't take it.

Most adults don't need peer review credits; most minors do. Unless IMVU gives minors an equivalent method to safely earn credits (and since they won't do age verification), IMVU actively encourages minors to create adult accounts through their Peer Review policy.

Let's put keep blame where it belongs and on the company that can fix that problem.
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Miso 18+ Age Verified

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with what's stated above. There's no guarantee that the age verified is the user's actual age. Taking a picture of an older sibling/friend's or parent's or grandma's passport/ID and send it in as a verification is far too easy and frankly, happens all the time here. Furthermore, I wouldn't trust IMVU with my passport details, I don't like IMVU THAT much. Lol.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnakaTarren wrote:
Part of the problem is that IMVU encourages minors to lie about their ages by only allowing adult users to safely earn credits through Peer Review, which minor accounts are NOT allowed to participate in.

Until IMVU stops paying minors to lie about their ages and instead provides minors with SAFE ways * to earn equivalent income on accounts using their real ages, I believe minors with adult accounts will continue to be a serious problem.



* Many partner offers are NOT safe, especially since so many are actually scams to obtain your private information to match up and sell to big companies (like PeopleFinders and Intellius). Did you ever stop to wonder how those companies got the info to match real names to avatar names, info they sell to anybody with $35 to $50? No company can afford to give out credits unless they are either selling something legitimate (like Netflix) or selling YOUR info on the back end.


I believe Anaka has a strong point here.

We should never forget about side effects of that kind, and actually PR is a good example of how restrictions in one area can affect other areas without the community being really aware of it.

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Scarling 18+ Age Verified

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While the concept is in the right place, it wouldn't be feasible because:

1. People from all over the world are on IMVU. Right now only residents of the US are able to verify their age instantly with their DOB and last four digits of their SSN. Anyone outside of the US would have to mail or scan and email/fax a copy of their drivers license or passport to IMVU in order to verify.
2. I feel a good 99% of non-US residents (and even many US residents) would absolutely not feel comfortable sending IMVU a copy of those documents, with or without other personal information blacked out (which is allowed).
3. It is extremely easy for someone to send in a document or get the last four digits of their parents SSN in order to fake their ages. There is no way to verify that that is the person actually using the account.
4. IMVU would lose too many customers because of the hassle and inconvenience of having to prove your age before signing up.
5. IMVU isn't racy enough to have to have everyone verify their ages. If I were to see a site like that where it was mandatory to prove my age, I would imagine most of the content would be quite taboo and IMVU is pretty damn vanilla.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Age verification is quite useless in my opinion. It proves NOTHING. Ive a avi that is age verified & its not the correct age & IMVU knows this.
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