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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi, it means IMVU needs products that haven't been fixed by the developer. They can't test and see if there is a problem without products having the problem.

Anyone who has a bleeding issue who wants their products checked by IMVU and is willing to leave their product as is can pm me the pids. Devs' who have already fixed their products should not pm pids. Thanks


I put mine up on first page. It was marked as AP because it bleeds.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am really wondering what happens when the trolls go out now and start to flag those bleeding items, items which were made in good fate and were all correctly ga without funny red pixels peeking out?
Not every dev is aware of this problem, means not everyone jumped in fixing their products, plus it can't be our responsibility to go through hundreds and thousands products fixing them cause someone in the imvu office pushed the wrong buttons.
I see a lot items being set to ap ruining the devs as their incomes will be revoked..I just hope it won't happen.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The graphic rendering engine has changed since 467.x (I think 467 is correct) anyway . . . Many things are going wrong that are now becoming apparent. I wonder if this is a problem here.

Many with 'other' Graphic rendering problems were fixed by going back to 462.18 Would someone with a good test product please try it?

No you cant create on that version but it was way before the graphics rendering was changed. Someone please test it...

http://static-akm.imvu.com/imvufiles/installers/InstallIMVU_462.18.exe


Well on my desktop I cannot see the red at all, on 470.24 or any other version

BUT

It is only showing on my Notebook with the newer 270.24. When I set my Notebook BACK to the 462.18 the red is no longer there. Hope that helps. No longer watching this topic, I don't do clothes.


Has anyone else checked out any of the versions, prior to the mandatory update to 467.22? Maybe we can narrow down when this became a problem. Since Lestat already said it's not a problem in 462.18, maybe versions beyond this need to be checked, one by one, to see exactly when this became a problem. That might also help the engineers in figuring out what went wrong, if the search can be narrowed down to a specific client version in which this problem began.

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Hi, no dev will be rerated for sharing pids. Please use pm's only. IMVU is trying to get to the bottom of this and just needs examples to work with. No bad will come to anyone for helping out.


I kinda assumed this, already, but thought it would be nice to see it in writing... in the public forums Wink I'll be checking through my catty this evening...

Edit to add: I wish to find a product that I can test out from my own catty, but for those who already provided PIDs, could you please check if the red is gone in 462.18? IF you have the time... lol... could you also check client versions, going up from there if the red is gone on your product, and which client version do you first see the red? I'm still working on locating one to test, myself....
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now, someone may have mentioned this already, but it IMVU would make it so that every GA user has an automatically attached MCG compliant blur spot (like the Sims) or just cover up, that would pretty much solve any MCG issues. Sure, a few users will figure out how to get rid of them, but at least each and every clothing developer wouldn't have to go through things like this every time an issue occurred with the base mesh or texture change/update. Now, it would involve IMVU taking direct responsibility when things did go wrong, because it would mean that it was, without question, on their end.

I'm sure there are some problems with this theory on the technical side (incompatible meshes not blending right over the preexisting MCG mesh, etc) but that's my best suggestion for now. If they don't want to take the time to solve this problem, then provide a decent alternative.


yeah this is kinda what i was hinting at when i said imvu could cover that stuff automatically on GA accounts. making a GA and AP version of every skin would be a nightmare and i'd never suggest that as an alternative, but a SIMS blur or just some type of auto coverage under the clothing for non-AP holders would be a really great thing to have so that this subject would never ever be an issue again. but as you pointed out it would make IMVU be responsible for their own policies and since they aren't too keen on that i doubt it will happen. not to mention they use peer review to give out free credits to (in their mind i'm sure) keep people interested in IMVU. once again i'm so glad i never got into deving anything too skimpy. the swimsuits and lingerie set must be having a terrible time with this mess.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the idea of having it to where for the non-AP holders have blurry spots or automatic panties on it so this issues does not happen again. It would save a lot of time and it would make it easier for the developers so their products dont have to get re-rated and mess their sales up.

If there was a vote on that subject I would go with the automatic blurring or cover-up for non-AP members.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DarkAngel5 wrote:
Hi, it means IMVU needs products that haven't been fixed by the developer. They can't test and see if there is a problem without products having the problem.

Anyone who has a bleeding issue who wants their products checked by IMVU and is willing to leave their product as is can pm me the pids. Devs' who have already fixed their products should not pm pids. Thanks


IMVU is playing a really nice game here. Why would they ask for products that are not changed, when they keep a copy of each and every revision of the products that we make? If it matters, they number the product revisions 1, 2, 3,... in orders of submission.

When I can see all the revisions of a product how can they not? LOL!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi, no dev will be rerated for sharing pids. Please use pm's only. IMVU is trying to get to the bottom of this and just needs examples to work with. No bad will come to anyone for helping out.


Thanks go out to those who have sent pids Smile
...sorry,,but that is not true dark angel....i cant discuss what has happened to my alter acct,,but i did just as u suggested,it did not go well..the help center is sending us to this link...no assistance provided...still saying its on us
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tested out all my tops and bottoms with both the Minimum coverage guide and Min coverage inverse guide.

Just finished updating three pairs of male pants that had this problem. They all had one red pixel showing on both of the inner thighs. The most recently made of the three was made on 7/26/2011 and the three pairs of pants were made with the same mesh (which I would link but I'm not sure if that's okay). When these were made there was no red showing.

I am glad none of my female clothes have this problem; however, I am shocked to have found red showing in the three products I mentioned even if it was only three. I am VERY careful when I make my opacities. I know for a fact there was no red showing when it was made because that area of the male pants is hard for me to do which means I spent a good amount of time on it. I went pixel by pixel.

The bleeding on the three products I mentioned was visible both on my laptop and my desktop (both are Windows Vista).

Edit: Oh and I am running IMVU version 470.0
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is better not to ask imvu abouut covering the areas, but it is better to ask them to stop fiddling with the texture behaviour.
Covered areas could also mean that they build in slips and bras and then you will have a problem with gowns or other tops which are backfree. I really don't want to see some standard things on there, I don't want even imagine how this could backfire on us.

I am not happy that I had to go through 200 products and even things where I used the standard bikini from the mesh were bleeding through on some edges. And I can say that I definitaly didn't see those red areas before.
I am kinda paranoid and always testing my things like two or three times rotating from every possible angle.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi, you did not send me any pids. IMVU has asked for 5-6 product pids within this thread to use for tests. Any other products do not fall under this protection. If IMVU deems the problems is not due to them then the test products will need to be updated after the fact to comply with the mcg. Until then the pids pm'd to me will not be rerated and are being used for test purposes.

We will have to wait for IMVU's response to learn the outcome of their testing and then go from there. Thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, IMVU has enough pids now and continues to test. Staff doesn't need any more pids. Again thanks to those who pm'd me.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope they look at men's products, too. Cuz I have some that are now showing red and they weren't before and shouldn't be. Just checked my opacity maps and the red's covered.
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It just boggles the mind reading this whole thread. I just don't understand IMVU's ways of handling issues that come up such as this one. If there are so many and many more will be coming, how can they say nothing is changed? Why always let things fail or become corrupted and not even try to fix the issue? Why does the community have to go in and fix things that were not broken? What about all the devs that never come to the forums? I just have many questions and am sure I will never ever see an answer for. I truly did not plan on nor want to spend any time going over all my clothing items but it seems most are left with two choices either check and fix or prepare for the grief flaggers. Wow just boggles my mind SMH.


Even worse there are people planning to fail you for 1 red pixel if you have read the other threads Sad it's hard to tell whether people are really flagging or just griefing nowdays

and i think the rerates have already happened... people came flooding to the forum after they have received the sudden rerate
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I am going to recommend to staff, that they PROVIDE US with a working OPACITY, and the industrial among us, will go forth and try it on several meshes.

It's more productive than suggesting that OUR OPACITIES may be flawed, give us the official opacity, and we'll test it, on all the different versions of client and meshes, and post results here.


I think this is a brilliant idea! IMVU should provide an official GA coverage opacity, as a layer on the MCG skin which we can download, which we can then incorporate into out own opacities, and then we can be sure that we are covering everything.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wendigoth wrote:
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I am going to recommend to staff, that they PROVIDE US with a working OPACITY, and the industrial among us, will go forth and try it on several meshes.

It's more productive than suggesting that OUR OPACITIES may be flawed, give us the official opacity, and we'll test it, on all the different versions of client and meshes, and post results here.


I think this is a brilliant idea! IMVU should provide an official GA coverage opacity, as a layer on the MCG skin which we can download, which we can then incorporate into out own opacities, and then we can be sure that we are covering everything.

Like they'd ever provide us with something that useful and straighforward.
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