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xJasxminax
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| MinhyrdinWindrose wrote: | @ Possibility of being able to choose which products can be purchased with predits and which cannot: If you wish to continue that discussion more in depth, let us know so it can be split out.
I'm actually curious about the decision to make outfits purchasable only with credits. Weren't clothing bundles moved into that category as well? If so, wouldn't that mean that those can only be bought with credits now too? |
They (IMVU ) said,
"........ A few hundred clothing bundles that were already in the catalog from prior submissions etc were moved to the new outfits category in order to have a items available in it at its launch. Hence, your bundle that you had created for IMVU got categorized as an outfit......."
I wonder if they are still in the catty under both categories ?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Notorious wrote: | | Varsha wrote: | Update:
Effective immediately, outfit bundles available in our new Outfits category can only be purchased using credits. Promotional credits cannot be used for such purchases.
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Electro you may be on to something.
Not to go too far off topic, and maybe we can split this thread off if need be...
IF IMVU can control how one "product" is purchased from the catalog only using credits....
Is it possible that we can soon see the opportunity for us to decide which items we submit to the catalog can be sold for credits or promos?
Wouldn't that be a nice surprise? |
And... if IMVU has made it this much easier to bundle an 'outfit', and now we can 'try on' a bundled outfit (where as regular bundles must be tried on one item at a time)... would it be possible to maybe bundle a 'room' using the slurp tool?
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electro57
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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I have a idea lets let IMVU do its thing for 6 months with this and the 50 bugs it will creat with pricing and every other thing that can go wrong before they get to screw up rooms !!!
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IMVU I talked to Elvis and he says DO IT NOW !!!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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| electro57 wrote: | | I have a idea lets let IMVU do its thing for 6 months with this and the 50 bugs it will creat with pricing and every other thing that can go wrong before they get to screw up rooms !!! |
lol electro! So true.
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Let me guess, he got a room he wants to submit! 
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| xJasxminax wrote: | | MinhyrdinWindrose wrote: | @ Possibility of being able to choose which products can be purchased with predits and which cannot: If you wish to continue that discussion more in depth, let us know so it can be split out.
I'm actually curious about the decision to make outfits purchasable only with credits. Weren't clothing bundles moved into that category as well? If so, wouldn't that mean that those can only be bought with credits now too? |
They (IMVU ) said,
"........ A few hundred clothing bundles that were already in the catalog from prior submissions etc were moved to the new outfits category in order to have a items available in it at its launch. Hence, your bundle that you had created for IMVU got categorized as an outfit......."
I wonder if they are still in the catty under both categories ? |
I can answer that. No.
The bundles that I had (created in the previous outfit features) were moved to the new feature category and are hidden from browsing in my catalog.
I can only access them through my Product List (in the Dev report area).
My profit has not changed and I am locked out of altering the products within or my profit from now on.
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SinfulTreasure
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| SiNafay wrote: | | xJasxminax wrote: |
They (IMVU ) said,
"........ A few hundred clothing bundles that were already in the catalog from prior submissions etc were moved to the new outfits category in order to have a items available in it at its launch. Hence, your bundle that you had created for IMVU got categorized as an outfit......."
I wonder if they are still in the catty under both categories ? |
I can answer that. No.
The bundles that I had (created in the previous outfit features) were moved to the new feature category and are hidden from browsing in my catalog.
I can only access them through my Product List (in the Dev report area).
My profit has not changed and I am locked out of altering the products within or my profit from now on. |
Umm ok and I am encourage by this how or why? I am soooo glad this did not happen to me. I want to be able to offer winter Specials and Sales on bundles every now and then.
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xJasxminax
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:01 am Post subject: |
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| SiNafay wrote: | | xJasxminax wrote: |
They (IMVU ) said,
"........ A few hundred clothing bundles that were already in the catalog from prior submissions etc were moved to the new outfits category in order to have a items available in it at its launch. Hence, your bundle that you had created for IMVU got categorized as an outfit......."
I wonder if they are still in the catty under both categories ? |
I can answer that. No.
The bundles that I had (created in the previous outfit features) were moved to the new feature category and are hidden from browsing in my catalog.
I can only access them through my Product List (in the Dev report area).
My profit has not changed and I am locked out of altering the products within or my profit from now on. |
Thank you Sinafay for your interesting reply. I shall certainly not be making anything I have or will create Bundleable based on that.
Although I think I already know the answer to the question your reply leads me to, I had best ask it, in the interests of fairness...
Did IMVU ask your permission or consult in anyway with you prior to moving your bundles, and disabling your ability to alter either the products or profit?
Did IMVU consult with or inform any of the creators of
Quote ... A few hundred clothing bundles that were already in the catalog from prior submissions etc were moved to the new outfits category in order to have a items available in it at its launch...
in advance of moving their bundles?
Indeed what constitutes a "Few Hundred " ? I seem to recall seeing somewhere a figure in excess of 600 mentioned.
*I figure someone will quote IMVU's ability to do so under their increasingly elastic and one sided TOS. Still does not make it right or ethical, or good practice.
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SkylerWatts
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:37 am Post subject: |
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| very nice that you can sell them,,, but i hoghley dont think ppl will buy them cas they can get it cheaper going right thro the dev,, and as a dev,, i think this is a totalk rip off for us,,,,, how rude of imvu to make it so anyone can sell anythign ,, as devs we put in so much time,, oh i give up IMVu ,, you won,,, im done deving |
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Twinkie321
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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I have actually sold a few of these outfits and I think its a great idea. The devs still get full profits from the items that are sold so this is more exposure for them and better for sales as well.
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SinfulTreasure
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| Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Twinkie321 wrote: | | I have actually sold a few of these outfits and I think its a great idea. The devs still get full profits from the items that are sold so this is more exposure for them and better for sales as well. |
It is not the exposure that has me upset with this, but that as creators we are no longer on the same playing field when these new Creators get special guidelines that do not apply to the whole program. It is not fair to us nor them unless we cross roads and take both paths.
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| DivineBB wrote: | | I dont see those options either. |
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Celyng
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| xJasxminax wrote: | | SiNafay wrote: | | xJasxminax wrote: |
They (IMVU ) said,
"........ A few hundred clothing bundles that were already in the catalog from prior submissions etc were moved to the new outfits category in order to have a items available in it at its launch. Hence, your bundle that you had created for IMVU got categorized as an outfit......."
I wonder if they are still in the catty under both categories ? |
I can answer that. No.
The bundles that I had (created in the previous outfit features) were moved to the new feature category and are hidden from browsing in my catalog.
I can only access them through my Product List (in the Dev report area).
My profit has not changed and I am locked out of altering the products within or my profit from now on. |
Thank you Sinafay for your interesting reply. I shall certainly not be making anything I have or will create Bundleable based on that.
Although I think I already know the answer to the question your reply leads me to, I had best ask it, in the interests of fairness...
Did IMVU ask your permission or consult in anyway with you prior to moving your bundles, and disabling your ability to alter either the products or profit?
Did IMVU consult with or inform any of the creators of
Quote ... A few hundred clothing bundles that were already in the catalog from prior submissions etc were moved to the new outfits category in order to have a items available in it at its launch...
in advance of moving their bundles?
Indeed what constitutes a "Few Hundred " ? I seem to recall seeing somewhere a figure in excess of 600 mentioned.
*I figure someone will quote IMVU's ability to do so under their increasingly elastic and one sided TOS. Still does not make it right or ethical, or good practice. |
Too tired to switch accounts.
No, we were not consulted or alerted that this was in the works.
I happened to notice it because the two bundles I had were bought right after another by the same account with a name that indicated it was a test account. I checked further and noticed an old skin of mine purchased in another bundle, same account. I also noted the change of the category and the little hanger icon on the product page. Those changes did not concern me.
To be honest, on a personal level, this change doesn't bother me. The two bundles I created did not contain any of my own products and were made to test the features at the time, so since I was using other people's work, I felt that a markup of 1cr was suitable. I can see how this would not be the case for all creators of those previous bundles.
When they relaunched it in 2009 I was able to clean up my first bundle from 2007, so it is set pretty much the way I want it to be.
Speaking as my alt, I have one test bundle that does contain some of my own products and I have a product that has shown up in one of the bundles as well (new or old, I couldn't say), however it has boosted my sales as I see these bundles in my sales reports.
There are a few things that bug me about this:
-outfits do not show in our own catalogs
-outfits and initial marketing (save outfit picture) do not go through Peer Review (I would just love to see the look on their faces when someone to makes an outfit consisting of a mis-rated GA nude suit and takes a picture of a UFI poster product and have that as their 'outfit icon'.
-Inability to change outfit picture/icon. This is a pro and con. I understand why, but if they would just send them through PR, it couldn't be any worse that it is now
-inability to adjust products within the bundle (removing poses, heads, custom avatars)
As for the profit..it isn't bad. You sell the bundle 5 times you have made back your submission fee.
The predit thing..if I have 4 of my products in the outfit, plus created it, I am happy not to get 1 DT for the whole thing. I do think that if this test succeeds, they should consider this for all other traditional bundles as well.
As a marketing opportunity. Yeah. It works.
As far as I can tell, they have preserved the same criteria for bundling as with regular bundles: must own the product, product must be visible, product must be bundleable.
So these are extra sales.
I am still leery of what bugs are lurking in the system and I hope IMVU actively works on bugs as they are brought up instead of considering this feature 'finished' and tossing the bugs on the ever expanding list.
I think I saw three to four hundred products in the female category at the launch of the feature and about seven hundred a day or so later.
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xJasxminax
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Thanks for the reply, you answered a lot of my questions.
Some of these outfits are turning up in PR, but as I already said there is no " View in 3d" button on that category, so I skip over them as I refuse to vote on what I cannot check for myself.
I see it as another loophole for UFI/misrated items to slip through.
I myself wish they had addressed all long standing bugs and issues first, I am finding since updating that apart from crashes and lags, I can not type in the chat box in client at times either through the cursor racing from left to right there or indeed the typing simply not registering. I know from others others that this is not uncommon.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| Celyng wrote: | | The predit thing..if I have 4 of my products in the outfit, plus created it, I am happy not to get 1 DT for the whole thing. I do think that if this test succeeds, they should consider this for all other traditional bundles as well. |
Not getting Dev Tokens would be nice I agree, but if that is the case then they need to make it for all. Not just these bundles.
| Celybg wrote: | | As a marketing opportunity. Yeah. It works. |
only to a certain level. When a person buys that bundle they are going to remember that bundle not the individual Developers who are in it. And the bundle does not auto save to your saved outfit so it would be up to that buying person to try to remember what piece went to what outfit to find a developer and because these bundles are not placed in our catalogs as being part of what we offer, it makes it harder to search for a particular developer and what they offer.
| Celybg wrote: | | As far as I can tell, they have preserved the same criteria for bundling as with regular bundles: must own the product, product must be visible, product must be bundleable. |
Only part of it they have. We can not edit a bundle, which means if they take and move our current bundle to this format, I would not be able to offer discounts or limited time sales.
| Celybg wrote: | | So these are extra sales. |
agreed on that note.
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electro57
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| Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:15 am Post subject: |
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Ladys what if this had nothing to do with nothing ? A few hundred items moved around ? What if this was just a practice run to try a idea ? I have thought this befor in another topic that IMVU is up to something and this was more about catalog menipulation than inventing something new ?
Think on this IMVU invents something no one wants and then after its done ignors it ?
If you were going to make a wopper change to the catalog would you run a small test no one would care about first?
Sort of smells of something big coming dosnt it ?
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