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CountVladDracula 
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| ShinjitsuEri wrote: | | Usually, when playing vampires I prefer the Anne Rice version. Yes, they're absurdly overpower - yes, it can be perfectly boring to play a human against them; But I love those whining, passionate bastards and their glass-nails, so they'll always be my #1 choice. |
Whenever I play Lestat (LestatTheWolfKiller) I try to limit him to the powers he had in The Vampire Lestat novel because after that he gets a little God mody. (i.e. Able to stop a heart just by looking at a man, blowing up a helicopter with his mind...)
I keep the powers to the powers he had in The Vampire Lestat and Interview with the vampire. Sometimes I'll throw in the power of flight but otherwise I try to keep it basic. Mind reading, able to leap up to four stories in the air and come down gracefully, inhuman strength, speed, the power to see in the dark. And vulnerability to fire, sunlight and decapitation. |
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Skimmerskir 
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| IamCountDracula wrote: |
Whenever I play Lestat (LestatTheWolfKiller) I try to limit him to the powers he had in The Vampire Lestat novel because after that he gets a little God mody. (i.e. Able to stop a heart just by looking at a man, blowing up a helicopter with his mind...)
I keep the powers to the powers he had in The Vampire Lestat and Interview with the vampire. Sometimes I'll throw in the power of flight but otherwise I try to keep it basic. Mind reading, able to leap up to four stories in the air and come down gracefully, inhuman strength, speed, the power to see in the dark. And vulnerability to fire, sunlight and decapitation. |
Well, even leaving out all the real epic stuff, I still find it hard for my Rice-vampires to feel... anything, for humans in general. First of all, I've never really bought Rice's way of portraying such OLD characters who, in fact, doesn't act that old at all - and so, I might tend to let my own immortals become a tad... Detached, so to speak. And how, when one cares so little for human life, do you actually interact with one?
The sole sucessful meeting my main, Parsifal Heinzt, had with a human was a witch named April. She was based on the Rice-witches, of course, and as such had some sense of immunity towards him - although, he did throw her into a wall and almost killed her accidentally, still *coughs*. But that's beside the point; she had some interesting abilites, and since he'd never met a witch before, she managed to maintain a "personality" in his view of things - he couldn't *** or manipulate her exactly as he wished, so just like other vampires, she was actually a person. Not merely a doll.
I can see if this problem doesn't come up with Lestat though, seeing as he's such a passionate fellow. |
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CountVladDracula
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[quote="ShinjitsuEri"] | IamCountDracula wrote: |
Well, even leaving out all the real epic stuff, I still find it hard for my Rice-vampires to feel... anything, for humans in general. First of all, I've never really bought Rice's way of portraying such OLD characters who, in fact, doesn't act that old at all - and so, I might tend to let my own immortals become a tad... Detached, so to speak. And how, when one cares so little for human life, do you actually interact with one? |
You disagree with Anne Rice's portrayal of a race of vampire... That she made up...?
I have to respectfully disagree with your analysis.
Here's how I view it. I think for any truly immortal being to survive they would need a reason to endure. They would need to find a reason to survive. The love of the human world and human people is that reason for many of them. In fact one of the ironies of the Interview with the Vampire novel was that though the supposed detached vampires preached how Louis would not survive because of his attachment for mortals Louis was the only one who endured in the original story. If you look at Interview with the vampire as a stand alone book it was implied that all the others would fade away over time via self-destruction to some degree or another but Louis, for all of love humanity, endured where they could not. It was a metaphor for finding value in life. If you really become cold and indifferent to everything than you have no reason to survive. This gets mentioned quite a lot in her books.
Many attempt detachment but it's all illusion, self-deception and the only reason they survive is they gain something that impassions them, gives them reason to survive.
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I can see if this problem doesn't come up with Lestat though, seeing as he's such a passionate fellow. |
Oh, God yes. He's extremely passionate. People often get surprised when I don't portray him like Stuart Townsend's block of wood... I mean character... |
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AnniLussuria
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On Yardan's recommendation to post here as I do so love to debate, but feeling lazy having just got off the plane from My week vacation in Florida, I am pasting the general Vampire info I give on My open group page, in regards to what I've been taught in VtM: Vampire: The Masquerade. -smiles- Must be the Puerto Rican in Me looking for the debate, but I welcome it all. 
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THIS COPIED FROM POST BY RAVN LUSSURIA IN GROUP PAGE...
WHAT IS A VAMPIRE?
Vampires are undead beings, meaning their bodies do not function like that of a human;
* They don't breathe, but they can mimic it. Some have even made a habit out of feigning it while among mortals, as it's a way to uphold the Masquerade. However, they can still speak and smell things.
* They don't have heartbeats
* They do have reflections.
* Fangs; Their canines are long and pointed, and extremely sharp, but only fully extended while feeding, being at other times withdrawn into their sockets by the contraction of a flexible tissue at their base. However, some Nosferatu lack the means to withdraw their teeth, due to their disformed state.
* Feeding; the only thing a vampire craves as far as feeding is concerned, is blood. They can feed on humans or animals, although feeding on the latter is frowned upon by "polite Kindred society". Feeding should occur about once every night, unless they use their disciplines alot (using disciplines costs blood) or get seriously injured, in which case a higher blood level helps them heal faster. To feed, a vampire only needs to bite, retract the teeth from the wound and begin to drink. Once they're done, if they lick the wound it will heal, leaving no trace of the feeding. The victim will experience a feeling of euphoria during the feeding. Afterwards they won't remember much of the incident, unless they actually know what has just happened (as would be the case with most blood dolls).
However, the Ventrue are a bit different from other clans when it comes to feeding. Being the 'elite' they are, they require "higher quality" blood. Some have even developed a taste for one specific kind of blood (for instance, scholars or aristocrats, etc), and thus cannot drink any other kind of blood.
Kindred also usually don't kill when they feed. They take only what blood they need, and that's it. Killing is frowned upon, as it endangers the Masquerade by leaving bodies drained of blood for the police to investigate.
* Clans; whatever clan your Sire is, that is the clan you'll be. It's in the blood. If a Brujah embraces you, you're a Brujah for the rest of your unnatural unlife. Think of it as ethnicity; it you're born caucasian, there's no changing it.
* They can not digest food or drink, simply because their bodies are dead and cannot process it. If they eat or drink, they will vomit.
* Regeneration; Kindred can use the blood upon wich they've fed to heal themselves. Kindred are able to regenerate whole limbs and organs, given time and need. Regeneration always restores the vampire to the physical state he/she possessed when Embraced. This includes hair length, face shape, body weight, etc. When the body is injured or otherwise changed, it will reform in the same mold over and over again.
Regenerating/Healing in public is considered a Masquerade violation.
* As stated above, hair length cannot be permanently changed. It will never grow longer, but a vampire can cut his/her hair and have it stay that way during the entire night. When they go to sleep, the hair will regenerate. The same goes for piercings; if they get something pierced, and take out the ring/stud/whatever, the flesh/skin will regenerate within minutes.
* Final death; Kindred aren't completely immortal. They can die, and when they do, nothing will remain of their body but ash. This is called the Final Death.
What kills a vampire is the following;
- Being exposed to the sun for more than but a few seconds. The sun will burn their skin, and if they retreat back into the shadows in time, they will heal.
- Fire; works the same way as with humans, only fully fatal to a vampire if decapitation has taken place. See Below.
- Decapitation; works the same way as with humans.
This is a quick overview so if any see something have missed please feel free to add in below
Ravn
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And more simply explained in the next posting in My group....
(following the format of What is a Vampire(VTM) Post by RavnLussuria and spoken in the more innocent mind of a new roleplayer for understanding)
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Learning Vampire: The Masquerade--
The pounding out of your head of the movie vampire (especially the Twilight hype). Thinks in mantra...Vampires are undead, no breathing, no heartbeat, no body function or fluids. Can smell and speak and see their reflection. -thinks, awesome, because this hair is usually a pain anyways, lol-
Fangs: Hmm, helpful, when the meat is a little...tough. Retractable for others -grins-
Feedings: Mmm, blood, yum. Human=steak, animals=beef jerky, eww. Have to keep your strengths up feeding every night, though need a more frequent feeding each night, as a pick me up if you do all your neat little tricks (disciplines) or get into that little tiff (injured). To feed, bite with fangs -notes, remember to retract your fangs, plugged holes dont leak- and drink, licking the wound to heal it once you've had your fill (what you need, preserve the masquerade, which doesnt happen with cops asking why there is a dried out body) Your victim experiences pleasure during the feeding, though they wont remember much after the feeding unless a blood doll (think that fuzzy tipsy feeling where you're not sure you kissed that cute guy at the club or just wanted to).
Clans: Your race. What your Sire is, you are. (Caucasian is caucasian) Your clan is your race.
Things to note: Don't eat or drink, simply because the bodies are dead and cannot process it. If they do, they will vomit. (Umm, yeah, no eating.)
Regeneration: Can use blood which has been fed to heal themselves. Can regenerate whole limbs and organs, given time and need. You will always be restored to the physical state you posessed when embrace. (so, chop off your hair and it's back when you wake again, -sighs- ugh, meaning I'm stuck with these curls then lol) This is NOT to be done in public or you will violate the Masquerade and oh, no, no, no you do not want that.
A bit of depressing news. Vampires do not reproduce! Without a heartbeat, there's no blood to pump to functional mating equipment -winks- so kind of hard for that baby making process to even happen. Although that thirst for the blood...THAT satisfaction of a feed is sooo good.
Final Death: Vampires do die, but live forever. Someone say, huh? -grins- Well, only 3 ways though 2 really because one doesn't work without one of the others.
-- A walk in the sunlight is asking for instant, permanent sunburn if in the sunlight for more than a few seconds, ouch.
-- Decapitation-Don't lose your head, for then how will your necklace or chain stay on your neck? lol. Oh yeah, and you're dead 
-- Fire: Well, this is definite cause for ouch but only a major annoyance unless you've lost your head already |
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RaggedWizard
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I know this was in regard to Vampire the masquerade style vampires but some vampires don't follow the same rules as Kindred. That's why this thread was created.
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* They don't breathe, but they can mimic it. Some have even made a habit out of feigning it while among mortals, as it's a way to uphold the Masquerade. However, they can still speak and smell things. |
It all depends on the mythos in use. in Anne Rice's world her vampires do breathe and blood that hasn't been oxygenated (dead blood) actually will make them ill. They won't die from being unable to breathe but they will pass out. Lestat lost consciousness over this in a scene in The Vampire Lestat.
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Again, this all depends on the mythology. Ricean vampires do have heartbeats because they bleed when wounded and can't function without the heart. In Forever Knight their heartbeats are simply slower than that of a human. I never understood a vampire not having a heartbeat. This contradicts the very purpose of staking and the Bram Stoker version of the vampire myth in which blood from the vampire is used to turn you into a vampire, he needs circulating blood to be able to do that.
Rice Vampires
Stoker vampires
Forever Knight vampires
They all have heartbeats.
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* Fangs; Their canines are long and pointed, and extremely sharp, but only fully extended while feeding, |
Depends on the mythology. In the Vampire Chronicles they have small, slightly pointed fangs that can easily be over looked. They don't retract like a snake's. In the original Dracula novel he had a bad over bite because of his fangs. He could not retract them.
Even the blood drinking is subjective. In the Dresden Files tabletop RPG there are four Vampire courts and only two are actually blood drinkers. The White Court Vampires are actually Incubi and Succubi and feed on life energy instead. They are psychic vampires. But unlike the Goths out there that claim to be psychic vampires, the real ones can kill by this method and are relatively immortal.
| Quote: | | The pounding out of your head of the movie vampire (especially the Twilight hype). Thinks in mantra...Vampires are undead, no breathing, no heartbeat, no body function or fluids. Can smell and speak and see their reflection. -thinks, awesome, because this hair is usually a pain anyways, lol- |
I have to beg to differ. Though I strongly disagree with the Twilight style of vampire I am a bit of a traditionalist and Bram Stoker originally was going to call the novel Dracula by the title The Un-Dead. By his definition it meant something that was dead that was brought back to life by unnatural means. Dracula did have a heartbeat. Dracula did have pumping blood in his veins. He could not retract his fangs. And undead in that story did not mean 'functionally dead' (dead but walking around). It meant something that was dead and brought back by an unnatural means. Think of Un-caffeinated. It doesn't mean actually Caffeinated. It means without Caffeine, and Stoker meant undead to mean without death.
It's actually the movies, ironically, that started the claim that vampires did not have a heartbeat.
Vampires like Anne Rice's, Buffy's vampires and Dracula require feeding the victim their own blood to work the change. How can a vampire feed anyone his own blood if there is no heart beat? This was a nagging question for me with Buffy as they claim the Buffy vampires have no heart beat... but they have flowing blood?!
In most real Eastern European folklore, when destroying a vampire the head was cut off and the heart was removed and burned as a means to prevent the vampire from coming back. Traditional folklore did have vampires with heartbeats. The stake wasn't just to hold the vampire in the coffin. It was to stop the flow of blood. 'The blood is the life.' - Quote from Dracula.
That's why the stake had to be through the heart, to prevent the flow of blood.
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AnniLussuria
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Oh yes. I've seen all kinds that aren't VtM. Like I'd posted, this was as was taught to Me in VtM game. I had never rp'd before learning this and it's as I was taught and I do not RP any other way as this is how it makes more sense to Me.
Every RP is different and every game is different. I have close friends that RP their vampires much differently. They marry, are pregnant with like four or five kids at a time sometimes, kill those they feed on, eat and all the like. Just as it's advised here, I tell them OOC that I am merely observing if they start RP'ing in one of their more casual rooms that W/we might have been OOC in while chatting amongst O/ourselves and I do not let any of their story affect My SL in any way.
Same as if they pop into My RP rooms while I'm alone and chat OOC, if someone comes in RP'ing they quietly tell Me goodbye and leave as they do not follow the rules of My room and don't let it affect their storyline.
Problems seem to stem a lot from some people not being able to understand this and respect the differences of each gaming system. I haven't found a large selection of VtM players and so My RP circle is much smaller than in other groups but has those that are willing to follow the same rules I do.
With so many choices of rp and rulings under each, there should be something for everyone to fit into, so long as they understand those very same differences that give each person so many choices.
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RaggedWizard
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| AnniLussuria wrote: | | Oh yes. I've seen all kinds that aren't VtM. Like I'd posted, this was as was taught to Me in VtM game. I had never rp'd before learning this and it's as I was taught and I do not RP any other way as this is how it makes more sense to Me. |
I understand if it makes sense to you but I have to disagree about vampires having a heartbeat being a product of the movies. It's actually the opposite. Hollywood gave us the notion that they don't have heartbeats.
In most Eastern European folklore, when destroying a vampire the head was cut off and the heart was removed and burned as a means to prevent the vampire from coming back. Traditional folklore did have vampires with heartbeats. The stake wasn't just to hold the vampire in the coffin. It was to stop the flow of blood. 'The blood is the life.' - Quote from Dracula.
That's why the stake had to be through the heart, to prevent the flow of blood.
Also, in fiction, a blood exchange is usually the method of transformation. If there's no blood flow how are new vampires made? The vampire has to feed his blood to the would-be vampire. That means the blood has to be circulating or the vampire wouldn't be able to bleed in order to feed the new vampire. So how does that end up making sense? I can't understand that.
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Every RP is different and every game is different. I have close friends that RP their vampires much differently. They marry, are pregnant with like four or five kids at a time sometimes, kill those they feed on, eat and all the like. Just as it's advised here, I tell them OOC that I am merely observing if they start RP'ing in one of their more casual rooms that W/we might have been OOC in while chatting amongst O/ourselves and I do not let any of their story affect My SL in any way.
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I do understand that. Someone once tried RPing having gotten pregnant by my version of Lestat (LestatTheWolfKiller). I had to break it to them that 1. Lestat can't have sexual relations. He's impotent as vampires of the Ricean mythos don't reproduce sexually. And 2. Vampires of the Ricean world are fixed at the moment of their transformation. Their bodies can't reproduce. The reproductive organs are practically dead. |
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AnniLussuria
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| Quote: | RaggedWizard wrote: "The stake wasn't just to hold the vampire in the coffin. It was to stop the flow of blood. 'The blood is the life.' - Quote from Dracula.
That's why the stake had to be through the heart, to prevent the flow of blood.
Also, in fiction, a blood exchange is usually the method of transformation. If there's no blood flow how are new vampires made? The vampire has to feed his blood to the would-be vampire. That means the blood has to be circulating or the vampire wouldn't be able to bleed in order to feed the new vampire. So how does that end up making sense? I can't understand that. " |
Yes, as I had stated this was as first taught to Me in VtM by the person who is My Sire in game. And the posting followed the format of the post done by Him to more simply be explained to some members whose English wasn't the greatest and I wasn't sitting to translate to Spanish everything W/we have in that group. This is the barest of starting information O/our group introduces new players to. Some don't move beyond that bc they want to be pregnant vampire or kill their feed bc they think it's fun and leave the group. Others move on to the more detailed links and information.
As was explained to Me, to the best of My memory was that if W/we were playing on IMVU with the dice and point system which I am starting to learn now, I would be using energy or points (not grasped the whole blood points part yet) in Embracing because I have to force the blood to circulate through My body to feed My new childe I've mostly drained of the blood and therefore pass the Beast.
As was explained months later and only after I got into an argument not knowing much at that time with someone who tried staking Me, as you said, the stake stops the flow of blood. The way I was told was that the stake would paralyze the vampire, making it near impossible to move without expending major energy, giving the person who staked them time to behead them, thereby killing them. I'm sure there are other versions to this.
I have seen some kills that are stakes and the head cut off and the heart burned. Within the different rooms in VtM, I've seen the head cut off and burned, but nothing hurts if you do the heart as well and are completely sure of the non-return of that vampire. I would likely do that too if that opportunity and thought occured to Me. Seems complete and efficient. My first RP kill was human so I did not have to cut off the head really. The two childer were ordered to the walk in the sun til dead.
Even within VtM, each clan has some differences, Tremere Clan(My character's clan) uses Thaumaturgy, (blood magic) They also bind you to the entire clan and not just your Sire. A Ventrue might only like the blood of those of royal blood or in modern times, could be CEO's, the rich, or a particular blood type. There are some that might leave their childe/childer to fend for themselves and learn the particulars of their clan and skills themselves. Others take such strong hold over their childe/childer and do not hesitate to kill them if they displease the clan. My character as such has had to kill two of her own childer (they wanted to be a different clan, different character, so it was rp'd their betraying the clan and sent off to Vienna)
There is much more that I have to learn and I learn it while running the Regency and Coven with My now Mate and Advisor who is a more experienced RP'er of WoD with about 25 years experience behind him and at least one of the groups will move to dice rolling and such. I am enjoying the different views expressed in this thread and look forward to reading such and posting Mine as well. |
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Jessiemoonchild
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| you forgot a whole anime about vampires that i love ((sorry it kinda makes me sad i know you probably are like i dont care)) but look up chibi vampire ((karin)) their is one human vampire child ((cant remember might be two)) but most of them are either vampire or human XD |
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AnniLussuria
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I've heard of anime but not familiar with any aspect of it. There are many varieties, rules and forms of any vampire, being and race. My RP experience is very limited. I have 2 vampire characters, 1 mage (very new to learning that one) and one human that I rp for a bit of normalcy and let her be a blood doll to break up the monotony sometimes.
I would be curious just how many different types of vampires there are if every one of them was listed but I would think that list can get very extensive.
-mattress dives into Her own bed finally after the very long trip- Happy RP'ing to A/all. |
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YardanDuran
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Let us not forget the explenation given in True Blood:
Bill Compton: I have no heart-beat. I have no need to breathe. There are no electrical impulses in my body. What animates you no longer animates me.
Sookie Stackhouse: What does animate you then? Blood? How do you digest it if nothing works?
Bill Compton: Magic?
Sookie Stackhouse: Oh, come on Bill! I may look naive but I'm not, and you-you need to remember that.
Bill Compton: You think that it's not magic that keeps you alive? Just 'cause you understand the mechanics of how something works, doesn't make it any less of a miracle... which is just another word for magic. We're all kept alive by magic, Sookie. My magic's just a little different from yours, that's all.
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Skimmerskir
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| IamCountDracula wrote: |
You disagree with Anne Rice's portrayal of a race of vampire... That she made up...? |
I like her general idea, but over the years I've come to disregard some of it. For me, it's not an issue; it's a matter of borrowing and developing (or set it back, depending on who you ask) her wonderful creation into something I like to work with.
| IamCountDracula wrote: | | It was a metaphor for finding value in life. If you really become cold and indifferent to everything than you have no reason to survive. This gets mentioned quite a lot in her books. |
Oh, certainly, it does! And it is a main theme, no doubt; but I still don't agree with it. It always irritated me how in her opinion, vampires never seemed to be able to stick together for very long. For me, it would be the other way around; if I became immortal, the only thing I would be able to stand is... other immortals!
And one's meaning in life could be all kinds of things; it doesn't neccesarily need to be another's companionship/the existence of life. Some are perfectly happy sitting in their cottage and tending to their sheep or what not.
However, I have played characters who find meaning in "the beauty of human life" - I only never connected to them. |
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ThomasRaith
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| ShinjitsuEri wrote: | Oh, certainly, it does! And it is a main theme, no doubt; but I still don't agree with it. It always irritated me how in her opinion, vampires never seemed to be able to stick together for very long. For me, it would be the other way around; if I became immortal, the only thing I would be able to stand is... other immortals!
And one's meaning in life could be all kinds of things; it doesn't neccesarily need to be another's companionship/the existence of life. Some are perfectly happy sitting in their cottage and tending to their sheep or what not.
However, I have played characters who find meaning in "the beauty of human life" - I only never connected to them. |
I suppose it's all subjective but personally I don't think I'd be able to endure forever unless I could appreciate the world around me. Vampires attach themselves to fashion, art, science, and theatre. All versions of vampires appreciate these things. Dracula, as far back as Bela's version, attended Opera. These are creations of humanity. Without humanity I think a vampire would not have any reason to want to live forever. Nearly all things worth living for step from humanity in some degree.
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Skimmerskir
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| ThomasRaith wrote: |
I suppose it's all subjective but personally I don't think I'd be able to endure forever unless I could appreciate the world around me. Vampires attach themselves to fashion, art, science, and theatre. All versions of vampires appreciate these things. Dracula, as far back as Bela's version, attended Opera. These are creations of humanity. Without humanity I think a vampire would not have any reason to want to live forever. Nearly all things worth living for step from humanity in some degree. |
That, on the other hand, is a good point. Actually, my dear Parsifal had himself rebuked over this issue by his childÊe, who coyly pointed out that despite being so ignorant towards humans, vampires had done nothing to improve the world so far.
No, in this you're right - I just have a hard time with the concept of actually caring about -Humans- as in the individuals themselves. I suppose it's all in the character, of course, but generally; you wouldn't feel that much for a bug, would you? Granted, this bug can speak and even seem to reflect your feelings to some extent - but for the vampires who can mindtrick your ass into doing whatever you want for them, it's still just dolls doing as they're told. |
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YardanDuran
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In True Blood, Malcolm and his nest had no regard for humans what-so-ever. They were food, that was all.
I dont think its fair to say that ALL vampires would attach themselves to fashion, art, science, and theater. Sure, its a common way for all immortals to keep track of the times around them to assure they blend in, but I could forsee a kind of vampire that holed up, lost in the insanity of forever, truly being a monster without regard, care, or consideration for humanity other than food. I could even see one, if old enough, being afraid of the world outside and staying within, keeping to old ways and refusing to adapt, only coming to surface to hunt. Sure, its not a great media themed story, allowing for the romantics of the vampire seeking his lost humanity, but it would be a truer definition of a real monster.
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