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Should IMVU give the mesher the option to lower their prices.
Yes, Definitely !
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No
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Maybe
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Idk / Idc / I dont know what a mesh is.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:33 pm    Post subject: LOWER MESH PRICES (VOTE NOW!!!) Reply with quote

I can fully understand the IMVU part of the increase. But forcing the meshers to raise their profit is just insane. Here are some reasons:

- Any meshes that are made from now on, CAN be significantly cheaper, therefore MANY more people will derive from the new (CHEAPER) ones, and therefore, all those who worked so hard to make their mesh, and make IMVU what it is today, have all worked for NOTHING.
- If a mesher was to start on IMVU today, he could under cut all the prices here, and walk away with the biggest chunk of cash that any others will see. This is very unfair to the meshers that worked so hard and set their profits (which were LOCKED), just to have IMVU come and raise their own profits, making their products unaffordable BOTH to the customer and deriver (texturer).
- There will be less variety to choose from, as the texturers will not derive anymore because they see no sales (due to prices being nreasonable.) (The meshers are the only ones that will make sales, and there will not be different derived versions (VARIETY).
- New users who come to IMVU, from now on, will be searching for the catalog, and maybe might buy an older product, which the price has been DOUBLED, and since the product is OLD and not as good as maybe some new meshes might be, he might not want to stay and enjoy IMVU as the rest of us would, as he was over-charged and scared away by the quality per price.
- There prices were already set and locked, and we were ALL under the impression that (at least the MESHer profit) could not be changed.

If you were to reverse the FORCED Profit increase for the mesher profit only, then you would still see your credit sink, through the IMVU base increase. And the meshers would be happy, that all their OLD work will be affordable again compared to any new meshes.

This has caused a wide spread panic. And IMVU has not come up with any answer so far to these concerns. If IMVU were to give the MESHERS the option to lower the price back down, making it fair and reasonable and competitive again, I am sure that everyone would stop complaining and get on with their lives. Besides, raising the MESHER Profit does not help the IMVU credit sink in any way.

NOTE: Please VOTE and COMMENT even if you do not agree, and also get all your friends to do the same, this MAY Help IMVU change back, and save IMVU. Thanks Smile

Vote now!


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POST EDDITED: Added AFTER I got to the bottom Page 5 and did some calculations:


Just one example product:

Old Product before increase:
base 275
mesh 1000
total 1275

Old product after increase:
base 500 82 %
mesh 1820 82 % (same as base increase %)
total 2320 81 % increase

New product:
base 500
mesh 1000
total 1500 54.6% Lower than the OLD INFLATED product.
But only 15% higher than before increase.

The increase affects the OLD products by 54.6% (in thise case) more than new ones.

The meshers NEED the OPTION to lower their prices back down (OPT-OUT)

New products can easily be underpriced than old ones now. If there is 2 products of equal quality, one significantly lower priced, the lower price will sell more, (so much more that the profit will exceed the profit of the higher priced one which will sell a FEW). And since the OLD products profits were FORCED higher profts, they will sell a lot less than Cheaper New ones. We made and set the prices, IMVU raised OUR profit that we set, now we want the option to set it back down. The OPT-OUT option MUST be forced into effect now Smile

My point will be proved in the long run, that the Cheap new mesh, will over-rule all OLD mesh, and then the High priced meshers will suffer greatly. If the mesher wanted higher prices, he or she could have set them that way to begin with.

(I mean sure the higher priced ones still may sell a little here and there, but OVERALL the majority of texturers, and customers will purchase the newer, cheaper mesh). This is obvious to anyone, do not ignore these facts. I am only trying to help everyone.

It's all only virtual products after all, they should not be so expensive. After all, I am sure that with cheaper prodcuts, people just buy more (buying more = more sales = more profit, rather than trying to scrape every profit you can from each mesh, lowering sales will in the long run increase your sales dramatically) (lower prices, also creates repeat customers)


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a question for you, if this was implemented, in your plan, would those who have already derived from the meshes at the higher price, and the customers who have PURCHASED the retextures of the mesh at the higher mesh price, be refunded the difference by the mesher?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

opening it up would also allow for people to up there price (thats gonna scare a few people)

a few intresting things to note

-both meshers and texturers under cut eachother lonnnggg ago to the point anyone makes much profit anyway

-price's low and high sell just as well monthly profit to profit where as mid range price's are all to often ignored (multiple people have tryed over the years posting there results often in aw that they realy can charge more and get just as much if not more each month)

-IMVU wont listen even if u get 1 million people to vote yes to get it changed

tho pssttt, hint hint nudge nudge, meshers "locked" priceing is usualy broken once or twise a year, just keep an eye out and jump on it when it happens ^_^
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, not to open it up. I know once the product has been derived from, the price is locked. (or at least locked to the mesher, creator lol)

They could just allow each mesher, the option to OPT-OUT of the forced Price MESH increase, and then all their profits would go back down to what they were before. And the IMVU base price increase would remain the same (raised), and then EVERYONE will be happy, and EVERYTHING will be FAIR again.

It's not fair, to force ALL OLD products higher in price than new ones. (Any new mesher, coming to IMVU could easily under cut all the OLD prices, and then all the OLD meshers (the ones who made IMVU what it is today) would not make anything.)

It's simple math:

New product = 1+ 1 = 2

Old product = 1 + 1 + IMVU's FORCED 2 FOR MESHER = 4

(as far as refunds go, thats too dificult, and it is always IMVU's policy Never to refund). Refunds are not possible.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well the price wasn't locked...
when imvu did raise the base price last week every mesh went up
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what's is good for the goose is good for the gender.

so far imvu as proved it's only a one way street.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

high price or not... old products will be beat by the new one. its natural..
i dont think we have to do something with them... simply let market decide.
i saw a lot f new items with higher price.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a trickle down effect. The same amount of profit will yield a higher price. So the only way to keep the price down mesh wise from the new items is to 1/2 your profit. So no matter what you have to deal with the base price change. As a mesher, if I wanna mesh I gotta suck it up, I can't derive off anything else.

And it is correct. Once a mesher has been derived off of we no longer have the option to change the price. Price changes below and above said mesh are beyond our power to change.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it would be nice to offer the option to be able to lower the mark up for meshers without being able to raise it. I have watched a lot of post about the price increase and thing that it would work out better for everyone including imvu if they made it so that a mesher could lower a price if needed
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm the only one who doesn't care. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

am I the only one who thinks they did not raise it enough?

When developer (A) crashed prices a few years ago, rooms went from 5-10k each down to sub 1500 credits. Many developers left over it.. no profit, no future.
But for those of us who adapted... we are still here
Its a much lessor price change this time.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4u wrote:
am I the only one who thinks they did not raise it enough?

When developer (A) crashed prices a few years ago, rooms went from 5-10k each down to sub 1500 credits. Many developers left over it.. no profit, no future.
But for those of us who adapted... we are still here
Its a much lessor price change this time.


Apparently you are.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys know if you buy from resellers the price difference is at most... what... pennies... nickels if you really blow some credits. It's only dimes and quarters difference if you purchase from imvu.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not really bothered by it at all ....I know it has increased my prices but I'm still only adding the same as I did before....the only ones who can really afford to reduce their prices are the big group developers....the small devs still need to make a profit...and if we reduce our profit margin it's not going to do to much other than we won't get as much profit....and with sales slowing most small devs will take what they can get....

It's basically like a government upping the taxes on everything...like a GST...the original person adds 10% for their work....the next person adds 10% for their part....

and if people like something they will buy it......they just take a little longer till they have spare credits....as it is in rl ....save and then buy
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mirajai wrote:
You guys know if you buy from resellers the price difference is at most... what... pennies... nickels if you really blow some credits. It's only dimes and quarters difference if you purchase from imvu.


Huh? Its around 50% cheaper, and supports developers
IT'S A HUGE DIFFRENCE THAN BUYING FROM IMVU
Better price, better support, and more secure.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't buy from IMVU anymore....resellers for me...cause I'm also hoping one day to make enough to sell to them.... Very Happy
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