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Disrupting
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 Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:16 pm Post subject: R.I.P IMVU |
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They've done it now.
So many of you have heard about the recent changes about sending your credits. If not well here's your chance to rant.
Not sure who it apply's to, it seems to only apply to users who aren't dev's..and maybe some lucky other users.
You can now only send 5000 credits a day.
That's right folks.
I myself see the end!
This is going to affect imvu termendously! lol
I'd like to know what you other users out there have to say and what you are expierencing with the credit transfer.
To sum up a lot of the info that's been posted here is:
- IMVU has not thought this through! They are in danger of loosing many customers!
- We have to pay tax on the support stickers that are replacing sending credits.
- You can buy a sticker more than once.
- If anything they should limit the amount of credits pro dev's can send becuase they are the only ones that suposidly have credits to hack the account in the first place. But if they do that Dev's that depend on imvu for income can no longer send large amounts of credits. BOGUS.
- This hasn't seemed to affect everyone just yet. Not well enough to tell who can do what with their credits.
- IMVU is not being true to even it's most loyal customers by doing this.
- We all know how this will effect the GASR. Hundreds of people use that forum
- This will affect many who have pending payments due all over imvu.
- IMVU DID NOT GIVE ANY WARNING!!
- It's known that once people stop spending/buying. Downhill from there.
- We can buy credits, but not give them!?!?! Ya, think about that.
- IMVU has failed to realize how many people use their site!!!!!!! 40 million in case anyone didn't know.
- It's possible this may be a trick, to distract us from a bigger plan they have in store for us.
- this rule doesn't protect imvu's most vunrable users, creators. If they can send unlimited amounts or even large amounts, what's to stop a hacker from hacking them?
- This rule is basically forcing users to become dev's. Sure why not, imvu get's part of the pie. >.<
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| ZedVanB wrote: | This is very much what happened on Yoville. IMVU is simply getting greedy, read along and see why I say that.
They (IMVU) are tired of devs doing custom work and getting credits transferred directly to the them and not getting what they feel is their fair share for the devs hard work. By enforcing a low transfer limit it forces devs to set prices on items higher and what does that mean, oh yeah IMVU gets more profits taking credits back out of the system, making items more expensive and hence we need to buy more credits to pay for them. Light bulb on!!!
Next it means that IMVU members offering personal services that cost more than 5k have to create stickers for their customers to be able to purchase these services. So now again, IMVU gets a fee for creating the sticker and then a profit every time it is sold, and the catalog database gets fills with useless stickers. But again it is about profits to IMVU.
I also suspect that it is to curb the sellers of questionable items. Every attempt they make to curb that causes grief. The closing of 100s of rooms for unpublished items, was nothing but an attempt to find those kind of things. Worst was they closed rooms because they contained IMVU products that were created before peer review as well, lmao, did you look silly or what.
People were not informed and some spent huge amounts buying new rooms to get clubs opened and even when fixed it they didn't tell people.
Fraud and hacking is almost always the users fault. Why, because often users use simple passwords, hackers use social engineering techniques, getting to know people and about them to guess passwords (kind of car the drive, pets names, kids names and so on).
Users that have poor security on their PC's, ie Windows updates not applied, no firewall and no anti-virus/anti-spyware or out of date versions.
The worst is those gullible users that give their passwords to someone or register at a site thinking they will get free credits. Effectively giving their accounts away, there is nothing anyone can do to stop a user that freely gives their account away to someone, duh.
Credit limit transfers wont help that much in the least. Even if you can get IMVU to help you, when your account is stolen, rarely do they give it back to you, you loose everything as a friend of mine did. So it would only stop the hacker from taking the credits and keeping them in the system. Once the account is disabled the credits that were protected by the credit tranfers limit are lost anyway. Again to me the only one gaining is IMVU.
I work in I/T in a senior role an deal with security, credit limits have absolutely no effect in preventing fraud. IMVU can trace credit transfers if they want on stolen accounts and track back to the source accounts. The hacker only needs to have stickers created on the account he/she wants to transfer the credits to, purchase the credits, empty the account and then disable it. What effect is a credit limit transfer to a hacker, none at all.
I am not sure how IMVU decides or determines some of their strategies in dealing with abuse, watching from the sideline I would say I have not seen them be effective at all in any of their attempts.
I have 12 custom orders on hold for people, I will not dev and generate revenues for IMVU by uploading products at this time. I was going to buy a bundle yesterday during the sale, but said no way, didn't need it or the credits. So the dev that created the bundle lost one sale from me, sorry it did look good btw.
I have friends that I loaned credits to, they bought credits yesterday and went to transfer them to me to repay me, the amount to send me was under the 5k limit. Oh but now they get the message they have not had them long enough. But they had 100k to start with before they bought the new bundles during the sale, after the purchase it seems they cannot transfer anything for some period of time. BTW what is that time period please, would someone share that with us?
I often gift good friends 10-20k in credits, those friends that I know can't afford this game while I can. Now I can't even help them out due to this limit. Sorry IMVU that is credits that are not being spent, generating revenue for devs and most importantly for you. Yes I can buy them gifts, but sometimes my friends also want to gift someone else and they need credits for that. They hate asking me for stuff, specific items, makes them feel bad, so giving them credits to do with as they please works best for them and me.
So that means I buy less credits from IMVU and resellers. I enjoy the game less, my friends come on less as they are not having as much fun. They are not on so I don't come on, see a vicious circle developing here?
Thank you very much for making the IMVU experience that much more enjoyable for all of us.
Think about it really hard IMVU , this is going to mess so bad with the current IMVU economy that has evolved, causing huge issues. There are devs that rely on chains of clubs to promote their items, those clubs provide services for credits and now are looking for work arounds that make it more expensive for the consumer.
If you devs aren't happy and can't make money ( I mean hard currency reselling credits to partners ), they stop deving, customers stop buying and you start loosing out.
Yes there will always be new customers to replace us, I paid for AP, I myslef am a VIP member, I regularly purchase credits from IMVU and dev partners. So Anshex, IMVUCE, PlaySpan and Cassiopea will all loose my future business as I stop buying credits from them (yes I have used all these dev partners and recommend them all ) as I really don't need credits to play the game given everything I have already own already.
I am known to be generous to my friends, but I don't have to be, they are my friends, those that are for gifts alone, I really don't need anyway.
I have lots of credits to last me sometime, assuming I continue to play as often, could be enough to last a very long time.
Thanks for a great product that you continue to try and make un-enjoyable. Sorry if I end up stopping spending $75 or more a month with you and dev partners. I have my second lie account, there are other 3D chat worlds that look interesting as well (some that offer an adult friendly experience) and I see some of the big IMVU devs are already there developing as well. I wonder why that is?
That is my rant on this subject. This is an ineffective way of dealing with the problem they have stated it is to deal with. But is that the real reason, I wonder???????
I haven't quit yet, but every time I get a little closer. There still a 1/2 million credits and houses full of stuff on my yoville accounts (including Yobucks), I walked from Yoville, I can walk from here. I really don't want to thou, I love the environment and my friends her. Please think about some of the things you do and consider consulting us and communicating them to us. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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hey meg im not happy with imvu their ripping artists off cause we have to make stickers now b/c we cant send more then 5k aday also the fact that we have to make stickers which imvu profits off.
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Disrupting
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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I totally agree.
And the worst part about the whole sticker thing is that you can only buy it once.
What if you wanted more than one piece of art from an artist?
what then?
send them 5k a day.
jeezus
/overflowingtears
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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I hate the new feature, I must say.
But as for the sticker thing, you can purchase the same sticker more than once. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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-helps u- no bedlam is wrong u can sue the sticker multiple times actully but they are taking the creds we rightfully earned in the end i feel they dont care as long as they get creds their fine and the sales they have i dont find the point in it. Also i feel the need that they need to tell everyone that u can only send 5k a day not many know.
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Disrupting
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Smiles wrote: | I hate the new feature, I must say.
But as for the sticker thing, you can purchase the same sticker more than once. |
oh, you can?
well that's good news!
i didn't know that.
/phew
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| fallenangelofblood wrote: | -helps u- no bedlam is wrong u can sue the sticker multiple times actully but they are taking the creds we rightfully earned in the end i feel they dont care as long as they get creds their fine and the sales they have i dont find the point in it. Also i feel the need that they need to tell everyone that u can only send 5k a day not many know.
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yes indeed. they did this waaaay to hastelyyy
they are going to regret not telling the 40 million people on imvu that they made this change lol
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yea but is it just me they r ripping everyone off? i dont get y they get paid and if our art gets stolen all they do is get a warning not even that. Also if imvu was smart they would know to hack a account u dont need a password and by having the 5k a day the hacker will keep ur account longer to get the credits out.
edit: sorry if i sound mean or rude but its true =/
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Froslass
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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that and what if a pro dev gets hacked somehow, they dont have a limit so whats protecting them?
....seriously...
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Lol that ^
IMVU needs to be more logical about this.
Honestly, this will probably affect GASR the most.
The amount of artists/buyers may go down because of the annoying need to make/purchase stickers or whatever if the price is over 5k. And plus, IMVU gets paid because someone wants to buy our art? /headdesk. |
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| i agree with both of u and allot of ppl r thinking about boycotting this i'm not saying i am but imvu really has gotten greedy imvu needs to focus on protecting ppl not getting more money |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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i just dont see how this is helping anyone! >.< it seems to be more of a burden then a solution......other then that i am not amused IMVU..not amused one bit
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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I have a theory. I think its BECAUSE Imvu doesnt get any cash off of things in the forums (Unless they buy the support stickers) is why they've made this. I havent tried out mine yet... Apparently Im a tier 2 dev now? With my 3 stickers Lol.
Have I mentioned what a pain in my ass this is?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Froslass wrote: | that and what if a pro dev gets hacked somehow, they dont have a limit so whats protecting them?
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Most " Pro " developers don't have 5k hehe
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