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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Official ‘Let Us Trade, Sell, Give Away, Return Our Stuff' Reply with quote

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Official ‘Let Us Trade, Sell, Give Away, Return Our Unused Products’ Thread.

Currently IMVU does not allow the sale, trade or return of any purchased goods.

This thread is for consolidating the ideas and the pros and cons of implanting such a system. Any spam or personal attacks will be removed. Keep the discussion to the ideas presented and not the people presenting them. Do not presume any ideas expressed here are IMVUÂ’s official position on the matter, we are all merely users here and can only express our personal opinions on the subject.

Whether IMVU will implement any such program in the future is ultimately IMVUÂ’s decision. All we as users can do is share our ideas and our reasoning for them. Please feel free to provide constructive criticism to the ideas presented as we want to hear all sides. However, do not presume to speak for IMVU.


As before any post not directly discussing TRADE SWAP SELL ideas presented or sharing new ideas will be removed. We want to keep these threads on topic and to the real issues. Thank you.

Anyone interested in the previous thread or for reference a quick link to it is here.

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, I was wondering if the mods would uphold that rule for sticky threads.
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do we really need another? Within 100 pages of the last not one suggestion that was made could be applied due to it screwing over at least one involved party (most usually the developers). It's simply not possible to make this suggestion come true under the current economy so this sticky is nothing but a waste bin to keep the thread topics clean.

Why not just put your foot down and explain why trading/selling/giving away does and will not work and simply lock the suggestions pertaining to this. Another 100 pages won't change the fact. People will always be selfish and not care about the loss others take if this were to be implemented.

Even if we must have such a sticky I'd encourage seeing some of the greatest posts of the old one on the front page here. That it's normal people making products, not IMVU. That the copyright lies with us and no one should be making money off something we made unless we chose to and so on. Care to EXPLAIN the economy to new users so you get them thinking twice before they come here and post "I wunz ta trade mah ITAMS!"

Education goes a long long way but like in the other thread most posters will not know how the economy works. Most posters will never know because those posts explaining it will be burried within the thread never to be seen again.

Until that is done this sticky is so pointless.
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm... only related posts.. ok... I have a tee-shirt... it is baby blue.. and has "It's not polite to stare" written across where my bewbies are.. I bought it about a year ago... it is still in new like condition..(i.e. I only tried it once or twice).. but I've decided that I don't like it anymore... I think I should get my money back... Laughing



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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with not being able to resell items, but i dont agree not being able to trade them. I think that if i ever get tired of a product, i should be able to trade it for a similar product with other people which wont cause imvu's economy to go down because stuff is not being traded for credits. In fact, it should add more innovation to the developing of products for the developers that arent as successful as the top developers.

I'm not suggesting to trade credits for clothing or other items, im suggesting to set up a trading system for just items that we have already bought.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I agree with not being able to resell items, but i dont agree not being able to trade them. I think that if i ever get tired of a product, i should be able to trade it for a similar product with other people which wont cause imvu's economy to go down because stuff is not being traded for credits. In fact, it should add more innovation to the developing of products for the developers that arent as successful as the top developers.

I'm not suggesting to trade credits for clothing or other items, im suggesting to set up a trading system for just items that we have already bought.


If you could trade items, give them to other accounts, it would just lead to people making multiple accounts, to get the thousands of startup credits. Spend all the credits and give them to their primary account. This most certainly would affect developers, as their sales would decrease a lot.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PrinceOPC wrote:
I agree with not being able to resell items, but i dont agree not being able to trade them. I think that if i ever get tired of a product, i should be able to trade it for a similar product with other people which wont cause imvu's economy to go down because stuff is not being traded for credits. In fact, it should add more innovation to the developing of products for the developers that arent as successful as the top developers.

I'm not suggesting to trade credits for clothing or other items, im suggesting to set up a trading system for just items that we have already bought.


If you could trade items, give them to other accounts, it would just lead to people making multiple accounts, to get the thousands of startup credits. Spend all the credits and give them to their primary account. This most certainly would affect developers, as their sales would decrease a lot.


im sure theres ways around that. For example, you have to be registered for a certain number of days or weeks OR only AP or VIP people can do it which adds to the features of them and it also adds money to imvu.
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trading items doesn't add revenue to IMVU or the developers, it would only be to the benefit of customers. I know it sounds very attractive to you Prince, but think on this. We already have enough people who beg for credits and gifts from people, they would start begging for trades too and only trading among their friends.

Developers would have less and less reason to make things here, as there is no incentive. It is devs, after all, who do provide all the wonderful things people do love to buy.
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone else notice this in the Help section?



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The ONLY way I see this function to be fair for developers is if people can resell their items higher then the original price. That way IMVU gets their share, Meshers get theirs and texturers gets their share. If it doesnt happen like this I will be highly volatile. Mad

HOWEVER...It would NOT be fair to let someone sell and PROFIT from the hard work of OTHERs period.... grrrr
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that happens...
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KalicaTitan wrote:
Has anyone else notice this in the Help section?



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The ONLY way I see this function to be fair for developers is if people can resell their items higher then the original price. That way IMVU gets their share, Meshers get theirs and texturers gets their share. If it doesnt happen like this I will be highly volatile. Mad


I don't think selling items is a good idea period. But why would anyone buy anything for overprice if they can just go to the catalog and buy it at normal price? The only time I see this being possible is if the item is hidden in the catalog. But problem there is that devs hid things for a reason and to be able to sell it off would probably upset them.

The only remotely viable thing I see is giving away for free. That way 1 person bought it at price, they give it away, and they no longer have it but someone else does. Of course devs will also not like this because it means 1 sale instead of a possible 2 sales.

The BIG BIG the problem with ALL of these ideas is people creating infinite Guest_ accounts with initial predits to take advantage of any scheme that lets them buy stuff and give it to their "real" account. The only way I see to deal with any proposed scheme is to limit the ability to name owners only. That way people will have to be at least somewhat invested in the system, so they'd be less likely to take advantage of it.

Side note: I like how this is sticked here but many just start new identical topics anyway.... :/
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incase you missed my drift in prior post.....

My whole problem in that image is it says...

"We hope to be developing this feature soon"

There is NO good answer to this question other then to NEVER allow it.

If they develop this feature the crap will hit the fans....

KalicaTitan wrote:
It would NOT be fair to let someone sell and PROFIT from the hard work of OTHERs period.... grrrr


It should not even be considered.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i remember there used to be a "garbage bin". Where you can hide unworn and used productys....... where did that go, id quite like it back, to clean my account up abit Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diddyedwards wrote:
i remember there used to be a "garbage bin". Where you can hide unworn and used productys....... where did that go, id quite like it back, to clean my account up abit Smile


Bookmark this link, it is your web inventory and it allows you to hide items until you need them again
http://www.imvu.com/catalog/web_inventory.php
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if a developer can trade in the credits recieved for developing an item for real world cash then we should be able to re sell items we've bought...if i buy a shirt from walmart i can sell it to a neighbor if i decide i dont want it anymore if i choose . heck i can even give it away . but here its suddenly not acceptable to do? the developer got their money for the shirt they dont lose anything if i give the shirt to someone else they dont refund the money i paid for the shirt...i can only give away the one shirt i bought i cant sell countless copies of the shirt to someone so i dont see why its such a big problem.
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