Joined: 02 Jun 2007 Posts: 4276 Location: USA - AR
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject:
solution for fire fox users
In Mozilla Suite and Firefox:
1. In the Location Bar type about:config and hit Enter
2. Type "anim" in the Filter field (to quickly find the needed preference)
3. Double-click the image.animation_mode line and edit it to one of the following:
none — will prevent image animation
once — will let the image animate once
normal (default) — will allow it to play over and over _________________ I'd Rather Be Hated For Who I Am Than Loved For Who I'm Not...
Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 2357 Location: USA - SC
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:48 pm Post subject:
Tanya wrote:
I never thought of the animation hurting anyone, I will slow mine down but I do intend on continuing to animate them if I think it is necessary unless IMVU makes a new rule.
Imo... that in and of itself would be enough. It's the fast, loud, annoying flash that will drive me off, as well as being hurtful, as is my understanding of the underlying issue of this thread.
And Kimi... *sigh* sugar, being on imvu, while it does at times give me a headache... lol... I'm referring to not having a headache, looking at a cat page with flashing icons, and then having a headache... thus headache derived *cough* from icon.
I can go to other sites... such as msn, which has at the top left of their hp, a flash window. It takes several seconds though before it flashes to the next pic in line. And yeah... it's the 'fast flashers' like you were saying that are the turn offs.
Heck, there are animations in the friggin' smileys... but they are slow... not obnoxiously fast. The fast bright flashers are the offenders. imo. Though I do completely understand the request I read earlier for a warning.
Hey Tanya... do you know if that has to be typed in ff each go around... or just once and you are done til ya change it back?
And darlin's... In no way should imvu police, make a new rule etc. etc. about this issue. I just see it as an economical issue, because the people that it bothers aren't gonna shop from ya either.
I understand looking out for others, protecting them from possible harm. but there is also alot to be said for personal freedom of expression.
The end should be that personal freedom and expression should not end with harm for others. I don't speed down a street because I want to express how proud I am of my fast car because it can end up with me running over a person, or worse, child. I don't smoke in front of non-smokers, it's my personal freedom but I do not want it to end with someone getting sick.
I would gladly put my personal freedom and expression down if it meant I would not hurt anyone but as has been said before, if you have fast, flashing animations in your cat, I will not buy from you, I don't buy from people giving me a horrible migraine as stupid as it sounds, and popping a tylenol doesn't help. Migraine is vastly different from a simple headache. _________________ Screenshot Vault group
Joined: 02 Jun 2007 Posts: 4276 Location: USA - AR
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject:
like I said I had no idea and I am changing my faster animated icons I have probably less than 10 anyway
my point was there are fixes the person effected could do before having more rules imposed.
If we change what is allowed in catalog tags then we need to say no animations at all on imvu since it could all hurt these people.
do ya'll have any animation on your homepage? can we tell IMVU to hide their shiny badges? it has to end somewhere. why not let it end with the people it effect taking control over their online experience and making changes for themselves.
I am a non smoker, with asthma, if I happen to be around smokers friends I do not tell them all they have to quit. I stay a good enough distance away so I can breath easily. yes some of them make changes so i can breath easier and I appreciate it. just as I am changing my images so others are not effected, but the simple fact is in life you must take care of you. and if changing a setting on my computer would stop headaches or seizures you can damn sure bet I'd do it.....ooh wait I do. Remember I can not see well? I made my text larger so I can see easier on ever page. I did not ask every one else to type bigger because I am legally blind in my right eye.
I never said I would intentionally do something that would hurt others. I am a very caring individual, obviously I would never do that My animations are in the process of slowing.
I never said pop a Tylenol, that wasn't me. For a migraine I would recommend lowering the lights and laying down in a dark room maybe some meditative breathing, a ice pack ..maybe a light massage, if you have regular migraines stay away from salt as that could make the occur more frequently ...
However, if someone doesn't want to buy from me I am ok with that. I create on imvu for me first and if I get sales good if not ok well its still fun for me. If anyone think saying "if you have animations I will not buy from you" bothers me it doesn't at all.
Tanya _________________ I'd Rather Be Hated For Who I Am Than Loved For Who I'm Not...
Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 7014 Location: United Kingdom
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject:
Okay can we all take a deep breath please?
Maybe I wasn't the best person to post this thread.....however, I was the one that was here & I did leave it quite a while after offering to give others the opportunity to post it/onject to me posting it....neither happened
You know this wasn't about rule making....this was about INFORMING people, not just of the harm done, but also of the potential consequences should those with fast animations carry on.
Whether IMVU create a ruling or not isn't the point, the point is that if/when lil Joey/Jane Bloggs views your icons & then has a fit Mr & Mrs Bloggs aren't going to stop to think twice about coming after the dev in question for compensation & how many of us can afford that? How many of us want to have to explain to our friends & families that cos we decided to be a lil bit stubborn we've now lost everything we ever worked for?
If the response ot my posting this really is going to be "take a painkiller" then perhaps that's the attitude we should take should the above come to pass, if not then perhaps some thought is in need
Yes I know changing icons is a HUGE pita & nobody wants to do it, including me....but isn't it better to put an extra blanket on the bed than catch pneunomia????
Ayla wouldn't pursue action over this & nor would Shads or I or any of the other people that know you.......but we won't buy from you either & it's not a threat....it's highlighting that perhaps there are other people out there who would very much LIKE to shop with you, but can't cos the icons kill us off one way or another
Tanya slowing them down is greatly appreciated as is the extra info regarding switching them off..........how do you suggest we get that info out to the entire IMVU community without involving the company?
I very rarely come across overly animated sites & when I do I close the window....simple. Yet I can't think off hand of any other site that has such a heavy volume of different animations (potentially 25 per page) on it's servers....linkage is welcome if it can be found....but volume does come into this as well
The occasional small ani won't do much damage to any but the most sensitive out there, but tons & tons of it will hurt even the mildly afflicted as has been evidenced here
The thread was created about IMVU as it's IMVU dev's, customers & users it affects....for a more general discussion about the matter on the net as a whole we could take this to the OT where it would belong.........as it's about the IMVU catalogue it belongs here........
I'm not about hating IMVU or whining or whatever else....this is just a "Hello! Let's work together to fix this BEFORE it becomes a problem please "
At least that's how it was meant.....hence all the questions & the info at the beginning
The questions to help everyone really think about all the various outcomes & the info to help people actually understand the subject matter.....these 2 things form the basis of objective reasoning
If it's going to become just another troll fest then I'm going to ask a mod to lock it & have it reposted by someone else tho' _________________
Joined: 02 Jun 2007 Posts: 4276 Location: USA - AR
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject:
boutoo, i like you i am not "trolling"
how do we get the message out there on how to stop it? well idk but i do know if I or any member of my family was bothered by it I would find the fix. on a google search it took less than 5 minutes
yes, I agree as a group we should be considerate of others of course expecallly if it can cause serious injury, or death.
so I am very sorry if my posts offended anyone, I do strongly feel a person should try to lookout for themselves. but I am not at all implying we should not try to make it a bit better
I am guessing the perceived anger goes both ways, and I am also guessing no one here is a heartless villain that would rather see people die that make a few changes.
the way I read this thread was almost hostile to people that have animations, like since I do indeed have animated icons (even though just a few) that i must not care about others and because of the I will lose sales. Now I understand that words typed are very easily misconstrued, but I am almost certain I was not the only person that took it that way
this doesn't need to be an argument I think both sides are in essence arguing the same thing , no new rules enforced by IMVU. everyone taking responsibility for their self, both the people effected and the people not. working together as a community to make it imvu a safe and pleasant place. so yes get it out there
the people this may effect already knows it effects them I have offered a fix that will reach just as many people as the info you gave to say it hurts people since it is on the same thread, so perhaps this is the way to get the word out there to devs and people effected may I suggest you edit your first post with those fixes? _________________ I'd Rather Be Hated For Who I Am Than Loved For Who I'm Not...
Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 677 Location: Australia
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject:
I don't like the idea of Imvu making yet another rule that will curtail our freedom of expression, but it could come to that if someone does complain to them.
Personally I don't use animated icons, mainly because I am too lazy to make them, but if and when I browse the schmozzle they call the catalogue I will not click on a flashy animated icon. They do give me a headache, they flash too fast to be able to see what the hello is being advertised so whats the point of looking at it? I don't mind the slower cycling ones but the bright fast ones? Forget it you just lost another sale.
Cheers Confusticated. _________________ May all your chooks turn into emus, and kick your dunny door down.
Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 7014 Location: United Kingdom
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject:
Fixes edited into 1st post
I'm nto angry....I'm just tired & got other things on atm....I know I can be matter of fact, but that's not the same as angry...I don't deny bias against them cos I think they're a complete waste of time....I tried one once in may cat & it made no difference to my sales either
& yes I had everyone telling me I should animate my icons when I 1st started deving & the lil bot thing trawling the servers changing icons pics atm isn't touching the ani's for some weird reason, so we're also being 'punished' for NOT animating in a round about way
Yet almost all the people who've posted here have said they run on sight of 90% of them & so the reality is they have the opposite effect to the intended one..yes they call attention, but the wrong sort
I'm only asking questions & consolidating what's been said etc a lil here.....no biggie, no drama
So it seems to me from the above experiences etc, that we're being grossly misinformed when we start out................
Perhaps a tut on GOOD icon making is in order?????????? That might also help to get the H & S aspect of things out there for everyone too??????
What ideas do people have as to how the problem can be solved by both sides working together to make it better? _________________
well i think i display as unobtrusive animated icons for animated items as possible.
it might be worse if someone actually opens the page and sees the 600 x 480 size than the 100 x 80...
i think the icon is a good warning...
i have tried both on a marketing perspective...
and people have actually asked me for a refund on my hairstyles that clearly state they are animated without a video or animated icon included...
people just don't read...
if you open a full page of my catalog however...you don't see 25 blinking, spinning, flashing icons... _________________
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Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 7014 Location: United Kingdom
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject:
Chicka I think we all understand that animation is sometimes necessary, but would it be possible to just slow the ani's down some so that 'all' can be haps?
& I kow your cat isn't ani filled...I've ummmm explored it a few times _________________
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 2370 Location: USA - OH
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject:
I hate the animated icons that have really bright colors or go really fast. If part of the icon is animated (such as Silky's where it's just adding to the description of the product) it doesn't bother me.
One of my pet peeves is when people make their animations go too fast and you can barely see the product. Most of the time, I won't even look at a product if the thumbnail is animated too fast, or too brightly colored. Just because I'm picky like that. XD _________________
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problem solved no rules necessary
It's the fast, loud, annoying flash that will drive me off, as well as being hurtful, as is my understanding of the underlying issue of this thread. 
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