The new home for the IMVU Community is help.imvu.com. For more information, check out this article.

My scene magically changed!!!Ahhh!
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
 
Post new topic   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    IMVU Forum Index -> Content Creator General Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
TheLovelyZero 18+ Age Verified

TheLovelyZero <a href='/age_verify/index/'><img src='/common/img/icons/age_verified_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='18+ Age Verified'/></a> 's page


Joined: 04 Dec 2005
Posts: 465
Location: USA - CA

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:12 pm    Post subject: My scene magically changed!!!Ahhh! Reply with quote

My snowy graveyard scene has magically transformed into the zoo scene by Jinx. Customers are ticked off and I am completely irate. This scene was working perfectly fine and then all of a sudden it's a whole different scene by someone else completely. I don't know if there is a bug in the linking or what but I could really use help right away. I have e-mailed imvu support and am waiting ...well...not patiently at all because I'm freaking out! It was my favorite scene that I made and I didn't keep any of the textures I made for it thinking i would have no further use for them. Not to mention the 130 something people who bought it that are now going "hey! what the!"

Please Please Please if anyone from imvu could look into this I would really appreciate it!!!!!

thank you so much !!!

- Zero
_________________


Last edited by TheLovelyZero 18+ Age Verified on Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:09 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
Cecilia

Cecilia's page


Joined: 08 Jun 2006
Posts: 6191
Location: USA - NY

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the mesh was part of a dmca take down. the mesh didnt belong to the person who you derived from. it was removed and imvu replaced it with one of their scenes-- so i heard
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
Jasmyn

Jasmyn's page


Joined: 30 Jan 2007
Posts: 8462
Location: Netherlands

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

omg... but imagine if anyone derives in good faith.. and people buy it.. I think the derivation shouldn't be removed.. I mean.. how can you know a room is not someone's original mesh.. Shocked
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
Shank101_13383044_1338304

Shank101_13383044_1338304's page


Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 47
Location: USA - FL

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:53 am    Post subject: Re: My scene magically changed!!!Ahhh! Reply with quote

TheLovelyZero wrote:
My snowy graveyard scene has magically transformed into the zoo scene (which isnt even mine!!!) customers are ticked off and I am completly irate. This scene was working perfectly fine and then all of a sudden it's a whole different scene by someone else completly. I don't know if there is a bug in the linking or what but I could really use help right away. I have e-mails imvusupport and am waiting ...well...not patiently at all because I'm freaking out! It was my favorite scene that I made and I didn't keep any of the textures I made for it thinking i would have no further use for them. Not to mention the 130 somethin people who baught it that are now going "hey! what the!"

Please Please Please if anyone from imvu could look into this I would really appreciate it!!!!!

thank you so much !!!

- Zero
Imvu Thanks You for your donation!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
PoeticDreamer

PoeticDreamer's page


Joined: 05 Sep 2006
Posts: 162
Location: United Kingdom

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what they should have done in your case Zero is make the derived product you made apply the the real mesher, so they in turn collect the credits from sales there after. and all would have been happy.
_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
neo1471

neo1471's page


Joined: 22 Jul 2005
Posts: 3636
Location: United Kingdom

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its not fair on the person who derived it, but its even less fer on the original owner, that would meen not only did somone steal there propperty and sell it, but others joined in, wether knowingly or un knowingly it leaves the real owner out of the loop and cannot be left to go on, thats the problem
_________________

The head? i lost an auction -.-
"Crankificates" -Polystyrene
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
PoeticDreamer

PoeticDreamer's page


Joined: 05 Sep 2006
Posts: 162
Location: United Kingdom

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is why i say make it link to the original mesh. If it was a honest mistake, and the person who derived is not found guilty of stealing it, then link it to the real mesher so he can therefore profit from its further sales. He is then brought into the link.
_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
Jasmyn

Jasmyn's page


Joined: 30 Jan 2007
Posts: 8462
Location: Netherlands

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah.. I'm just a bit scared since I derived a room from Yanhu .. and he magically dissapeared aswell.. account disabled..
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
neo1471

neo1471's page


Joined: 22 Jul 2005
Posts: 3636
Location: United Kingdom

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can understand that, but only part of the mesh may be copyrighted, using mesh's somone elce made to creat the final mesh

atleast this way its better than having the product disabled, its still usable and sellable even if its somthing else, its by no meens a perfect salution but its better than the alternative
_________________

The head? i lost an auction -.-
"Crankificates" -Polystyrene
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
AnneMarieDiamond 18+ Age Verified

AnneMarieDiamond <a href='/age_verify/index/'><img src='/common/img/icons/age_verified_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='18+ Age Verified'/></a> 's page


Joined: 07 Jan 2007
Posts: 188
Location: USA

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neo, that would not work and here's an example of a RL parallel:
Say someone takes Ansel Adams' pictures and changes them from "Black & White" to "Sepia tones". Then sells them. Not cool, but by your theory, they have changes the color/texture so it should be ok in part. No. The product was BASED on a product protected by copyright laws, so any derivatives from that are subsequently illegal.
I know this because in RL I had a group steal my copyrighted material. They rearranged the order of the images and thought that they could call it their own because it was "changed" from the original. Nope. A lot of people just don't understand.
_________________
Now under new management!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
neo1471

neo1471's page


Joined: 22 Jul 2005
Posts: 3636
Location: United Kingdom

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i know, thus why the item was taken down, i was saying its rong and thus the mesh should be removed, edit had the problem and iv no idea if its been resolved, totaly unfair to the original creatore, i was responding tot he one b4 saying that its a good idea, only if the original is part of imvu they can then link the derive list to that one, but if theres no original there choices are to deleat it or change it to another mesh as atleast then those who derived can still sell somthing and those who bourt dont get everything yanked from there feet

any copyright violation if in part wether its part of the mesh or part of the textures should be removed or replaced compleatly, if its just a stolen mesh from imvu selling under somone elces name and people have derived it should be removed and the deriv history be ammended so the orginal creatore now gets those prosseeds, any re embursment if possible and the account who stole banned

but anyway
_________________

The head? i lost an auction -.-
"Crankificates" -Polystyrene
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
Invisigoth 18+ Age Verified

Invisigoth <a href='/age_verify/index/'><img src='/common/img/icons/age_verified_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='18+ Age Verified'/></a> 's page


Joined: 12 Jun 2005
Posts: 2017
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PoeticDreamer wrote:
I think what they should have done in your case Zero is make the derived product you made apply the the real mesher, so they in turn collect the credits from sales there after. and all would have been happy.


My understanding of problem with that is that the original mesh was made up of parts from different people, some of which are not on this site. So you couldn't attribute it to all the "original developers" properly

As for it changeing, which would you rather have, A different useable scene, or, no scene at all?
_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
PoeticDreamer

PoeticDreamer's page


Joined: 05 Sep 2006
Posts: 162
Location: United Kingdom

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you saying he stole parts from different people, and added it into one product ?
_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
TheLovelyZero 18+ Age Verified

TheLovelyZero <a href='/age_verify/index/'><img src='/common/img/icons/age_verified_35x18.gif' width='35' height='18' alt='18+ Age Verified'/></a> 's page


Joined: 04 Dec 2005
Posts: 465
Location: USA - CA

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:58 am    Post subject: but that's not fair Reply with quote

That's not an even trade at all! I got the zoo scene wich is just a box that you can stand in and out of essentially. My scene was a graveyard with way cooler seats and it had gothic undertones. I would hardly ever use the zoo scene. What about my work? They should have at least sent me my texture files so I could re-make something cool with them. Not to mention they replaced it with a scene that isn't mine. So what now? I'm not selling something that isn't mine! They threw my artwork in the trash. What they should have done is disabled it from the catolog and counted their loses with people who have already bought it.

they should have at least changed it to a gothic scene. What about people who already have the zoo or any other product they change it to?

grrr I want my textures back. =(
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
PoeticDreamer

PoeticDreamer's page


Joined: 05 Sep 2006
Posts: 162
Location: United Kingdom

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel for you Zero, i have had some of my things removed with the new rules and such, i keep backups, so i can replace it, but still i understand, a lot of work, and people unhappy.
_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message  
Display posts from previous:   
Don't want to see these ads? Join the VIP Program!

Don't want to see these ads? Join the VIP Program!

Hide ads? Get VIP!
Post new topic   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    IMVU Forum Index -> Content Creator General Discussion All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Page 1 of 4

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


 FAQFAQ   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister  ProfileProfile   Log in for private messagesLog in for private messages 

Search the forums:


Powered by phpBB