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It's a headache to have to go, "No. My character/RP/plot is not _________. I'm working hard to make sure it is _________." (insert common complaint of any of the above and attempted solution) Also, there's simply no way someone will ever be able to seriously say, "You're playing Ishikaru all wrong! He's not like that!", considering I created him from the ground up. With that out of the way...


I think the weirdest complaint I ever had was while I was playing Thomas Raith (ThomasRaith) one evening. A Dresden Files fan was in the room when I was playing him once and when I referred to Thomas as an incubus he said "Oh, you're changing that now too?" I was like "Umm... He's always been an incubus. The Dresden Files Wikia classifies White Court Vampires as Succubi and Incubi..."
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've gone through and cleaned out some of the off-topic posting. My apologies if it has left the thread a bit disjointed in spots.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've gone through and cleaned out some of the off-topic posting. My apologies if it has left the thread a bit disjointed in spots.


Thank you though, I appreciate it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"3. The idea that Canon RP is pre-destined and scripted. Canon RP is NOT scripted. "

This right here is one of my biggest peeves with canon Rpers. Many of which assume that their character is it. There's nothing better unless it's another canon from their universe. Your custom character can't be older, better, faster, more knowledgable, etc.

However, these are the types of RPers that also use Marty Stu's and Mary Sues whenever they do make a custom.

I'll use Dracula (as a character and not the typer/mun present in this thread) as an example. With my own custom vampire showing up who is say....1,000 years old (arbitrary number). Based on a different source and all. However, in my experience that Dracula (at 500+ years old) is somehow better than the 1,000 year old vampire in every single way imaginable. Why? 'cause he's famous.

I HATE, LOATHE, and ABHOR that style of RP for canons.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I choose 580 as Dracula's age because the historical figure that Stoker says IS the vampire was born in 1431. Died / became a vampire in 1476. It has nothing to do with superiority, it has to do with being faithful to the source material for me. I'll evolve the character but I try to remain faithful to the book because there are so few people who actually play the version from the novel to any real degree.

You'd be surprised how many "young" vampires (all over six hundred) show up asking for guidance and then get weirded out when they find out my Dracula is younger than them. It's actually hard to play him with the historically accurate age when everyone assumes he's older thanks to things like Dracula 2000, Castlevania, and even Monster High.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I choose 580 as Dracula's age because the historical figure that Stoker says IS the vampire was born in 1431. Died / became a vampire in 1476. It has nothing to do with superiority, it has to do with being faithful to the source material for me. I'll evolve the character but I try to remain faithful to the book because there are so few people who actually play the version from the novel to any real degree. "

I wasn't really speaking about you but the character as an example. I've just seen it as an issue across the board though. In Comic RPs the normal human canon character is somehow automatically better than a vastly (but logical) super human custom character because they're canon. Or in Animes the main characters the same thing can be said. Every fandom that I have ever RPed in the trend has remained.

"You'd be surprised how many "young" vampires (all over six hundred) show up asking for guidance and then get weirded out when they find out my Dracula is younger than them. It's actually hard to play him with the historically accurate age when everyone assumes he's older thanks to things like Dracula 2000, Castlevania, and even Monster High."

People usually have a poor understanding of timelines anyway. They also seem to forget the scale of things. Especially when they pull from a specific fandom. Anne Rice's work? A few hundred years is the norm and anything older is something special. VTM IIRC is pretty much the same way. Which means the 580 years is still on the upper end of things. Or should be, ideally.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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People usually have a poor understanding of timelines anyway. They also seem to forget the scale of things. Especially when they pull from a specific fandom. Anne Rice's work? A few hundred years is the norm and anything older is something special. VTM IIRC is pretty much the same way. Which means the 580 years is still on the upper end of things. Or should be, ideally.


I think that's the issue. One vampire went as far as to tell me he's "only" 25,000. I was like "Was that a typo?" They honestly felt 25,000 was young to a vampire. I wonder if they have any idea what the world was like 25,000 years ago.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think that's the issue. One vampire went as far as to tell me he's "only" 25,000. I was like "Was that a typo?" They honestly felt 25,000 was young to a vampire. I wonder if they have any idea what the world was like 25,000 years ago."


He'd be looking at RPing a caveman. Hell, my Sumerian Vampire is nearly 19,000 years younger than him. That character coming from among the oldest civilizations on Earth (as far as can be proven).
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bumping forward as a sort of PSA as I'm seeing little comments about canon RP in a snarky and negative manner lately.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh, Eh? And what's psa?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PSA means Public Service Announcement. A helpful announcement to dispel misinformation.

Years ago they used to have messages on TV to educate kids about drugs and other issues and they would call these PSAs.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I see! Sorry if i'm the one who seemed snarky! -not my intent!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh I see! Sorry if i'm the one who seemed snarky! -not my intent!


No, it's not you. Just some recent experiences with role players who make negative assumptions if your character isn't original.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I see! xD

I think it takes a lot of skill to take something from a book/game/etc and apply it to different situations well. It's fun to think of what the character would do, how it would react, etc. IMO anyway! xD I mean, canon and non canon are good for separate reasons, right? ^-^
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