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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mcdasu wrote:

I just wanted to comment on this. I looked up IMVU's BBB rating. It comes at an A+ rating. The highest rating the BBB gives. As far as the BBB is concerned, IMVU has handled most complaints according to their contract (TOS). Trustlink is the rating given by consumers on IMVU and it is the 1 star rating. Most people leaving reviews, I would bet, would be those disgruntled with IMVU. As very few consumers take the time to leave positive reviews.

Here is the link for imvu's BBB rating with both the BBB and Trustlink reviews showing:
http://sanjose.bbb.org/Business-Report/IMVU-Inc-225868

BTW IMVU: Thank you! This version I am on seems to have resolved a lot of issues i had! Please put back in the tool tips over inventory items tho! They were very helpful. I will be upgrading to newer versions a little later. Right now I am enjoying my music working again! Very Happy

Since you're going to support the BBB you might want to do your research before you say anything like this. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/business-bureau-best-ratings-money-buy/story?id=12123843


Wonderful, I read it all and it speaks volumes, well discovered
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not sure if anybody has picked up on this outstanding bug but if your in a chat room with a friend for one on one private chat if you go to change scenes/rooms the room that you've changed too only partially loads leaving both you and your friend with a half loaded room or a loaded room with stuff missing. It forces u to have to close that chat room and reopen a new room and reinviting your friend.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

only 2 things I've noticed so far. Haven't gone pvt from room to room yet tho. When you do a chat room search and use a filter like Favs, when you remove that filter, it doesn't really remove. The only way to refresh your listing is to exit the chat rooms tab and re-enter. Also I agree that we are in desperate need of the tool tips in our inventory. A lot of devs use generic images for all their products and now it takes longer to find an item.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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not sure if anybody has picked up on this outstanding bug but if your in a chat room with a friend for one on one private chat if you go to change scenes/rooms the room that you've changed too only partially loads leaving both you and your friend with a half loaded room or a loaded room with stuff missing. It forces u to have to close that chat room and reopen a new room and reinviting your friend.


Yes, been that way for a while now...I just get the empty shell, so I don't bother changing rooms any more, bit by bit I find there are many things I can't/won't use any more...so much is broken

And Jason (above) yes room search seems to be flawed now too, I mentioned this a few posts ago, seems to have been since my last (down/up) grade
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol true... Seems every upgrade gives you less. So it is a downgrade.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



There are certain laws surrounding this subject, possibly their own Americans With Disabilities Act but definately the Equality Act here in the United Kingdom.

Firstly we need to know about the eye conditions that IMVU use can worsen.

Photosensitive Epilepsy
Photosensitive epilepsy (PSE) is a form of epilepsy in which seizures are triggered by visual stimuli that form patterns in time or space, such as flashing lights, bold, regular patterns, or regular moving patterns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosensitive_epilepsy


Nystagmus
Nystagmus is a form of involuntary eye movement. It is characterized by alternating smooth pursuit in one direction and saccadic movement in the other direction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathologic_nystagmus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdU_2DWI7cY

IMVU use can make these conditions worse with the use of the animation used, by allowing all IMVUsers to option to alter this animation within the chat client you are allowing them the choice to use, increase, and decrease the animations speed allowing them to sue your service for longer periods without experiencing a medical side effect to doing so.

One of the problems with the 2 above issues is that 90% of the population do not even know they may experience such an eye condition until it is too late, so by not offering the user option to alter the animation speed to all IMVUsers you are actually breaking certain laws by treating some less favourably than others.

it has been found that 1 in 2000 people actually have some form of Nystagmus http://www.umaeyehospital.com/nystagmus-a-little-known-yet-surprisingly-common-eye-condition/ and with an average IMVUser number of 100,000 by not allowing this simple option to be included in all versions of the IMVU chat client you are or may be potentially effecting or making the eye sight worse of approximately 5000 people.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hotstuff5743 wrote:
not sure if anybody has picked up on this outstanding bug but if your in a chat room with a friend for one on one private chat if you go to change scenes/rooms the room that you've changed too only partially loads leaving both you and your friend with a half loaded room or a loaded room with stuff missing. It forces u to have to close that chat room and reopen a new room and reinviting your friend.


Been pointed out since the start of the new year to IMVU they have yet to address it. Because IMVU couldn't be bothered to listen to the entire matter of the problems with rooms that we reported.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are certain laws surrounding this subject, possibly their own Americans With Disabilities Act but definately the Equality Act here in the United Kingdom.

Firstly we need to know about the eye conditions that IMVU use can worsen.



O.o What a load... Sorry. First off I happen to have friends that have Photosensitive Epilepsy, and I just take the strobe lights out of my room. IMVU offers free accounts. If you Can't tolerate it them move on to something else. All these people looking for a soap box to stand on... It's a free service with the option to buy in. So don't buy in. Pretty much any amount of time spent looking at a computer screen can be bad for you eyes.

"There is, however, a condition, "Computer Vision Syndrome", which is associated with the symptoms of eye strain (dry eyes, headache, fatigue, and sometimes some blurring of vision)."

Just had to chime in, sorry.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are certain laws surrounding this subject, possibly their own Americans With Disabilities Act but definately the Equality Act here in the United Kingdom.

Firstly we need to know about the eye conditions that IMVU use can worsen.



O.o What a load... Sorry. First off I happen to have friends that have Photosensitive Epilepsy, and I just take the strobe lights out of my room. IMVU offers free accounts. If you Can't tolerate it them move on to something else. All these people looking for a soap box to stand on... It's a free service with the option to buy in. So don't buy in. Pretty much any amount of time spent looking at a computer screen can be bad for you eyes.

"There is, however, a condition, "Computer Vision Syndrome", which is associated with the symptoms of eye strain (dry eyes, headache, fatigue, and sometimes some blurring of vision)."

Just had to chime in, sorry.


No dont apologise, that is what these forums are for to voice opinions and thank you for reminding me about Computer Vision Syndrome.

Whilst I agree in principal with what you have said, if you do not have the slider on your old account then start a new one, yep this is an option but for those IMVUsers they will not have access to their inventories, starting afresh, also IMVusers moy not have the financies to start with a fresh account.

The issue here as I see (excuse the punn) it is that someone could experience one or a number of these conditions and not even be aware of it, making their eye sight indeeed worse by undertaking something that they like to do, by not allowing this simple option the IMVUser is not being given the choice but having one enforced upon them.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what sintek (and I as well) are saying is if they give everybody the slider, then it doesn't matter. Yeah, strobe effects still bug me, but I avoid rooms that have them. (Seriously, if you have PSE or any other form of photosensitivity, DO NOT GO IN rooms marked as raves, neon, or even disco, have some common sense as well.)

I do resent the opinion not to buy in. I developed migraines a year after I started using this program. I'd already bought in. It's not unreasonable to ask for a useful feature that helps me control my serious medical issue without bothering anybody else.

Also, you can use the slider to speed up the animation, which is helpful for people with bad connections and slow processors so they're not seeing everything in slow motion.

In the end, it's pushing for a USEFUL FEATURE that already works and people enjoy. On top of the other benefits listed here.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just thought id mention that its all well and good saying not to go in these rooms with the flashing lights and such to avoid them and how the slider ment you didnt have to but theres always the other side of things, what if, like me you already do avoid these rooms? in context i tend to spend most of my time ina room called brains required where animations are not welcome at all, but we still get trolls coming in deliberately breaking said ruel jsut to spam the room with flashy animations people dont care enough about others and without that slider people are goign to have no choise but to suffer, and eventually, leave imvu
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend with epilepsy and she LIKES to rave, but she can't do it in real life. IMVU was her haven to do so. She could turn down the animations and still enjoy the music and the bright colors. Now she can't even enjoy what she loves because she has to avoid all her rooms. What sucks is she couldn't even handle the animations that were brought in the imvu store. Now what is she supposed to do? Quit IMVU and all of her friends? Thanks guys. It's obvious that you don't want to be friendly with people who have certain kinds of disabilities.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for all the ppl harping/whining about the slider all it did was just change ur chat clients FPS rate. for me all it did was either speed up imvu or slow it down. i think it wasn't meant for ppl with photo sensitivity issues because imvu warns u in it's TOS about photo sensitivity issue, where u should and shouldn't go. all the slider really did was help older, slower outdated and i mean computers that were 5-10yrs old with a video card that's original card or graphics chip built into the motherboard to be able to run the higher direct X9C, DX10, DX11 as well as Open GL's 1, 2 and 3.

just be thankful that IMVU isn't as graphically rendered as something like Second Life because then 3/4 of the ppl here wouldn't be able to run it unless they either had a high processing powered top of the line graphics card or they ran the special beta version.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a friend with epilepsy and she LIKES to rave, but she can't do it in real life. IMVU was her haven to do so. She could turn down the animations and still enjoy the music and the bright colors. Now she can't even enjoy what she loves because she has to avoid all her rooms. What sucks is she couldn't even handle the animations that were brought in the imvu store. Now what is she supposed to do? Quit IMVU and all of her friends? Thanks guys. It's obvious that you don't want to be friendly with people who have certain kinds of disabilities.


Sorry you feel that way. The slider has been gone since October last year. We have plenty of "handicapped friendly" rooms. The majority of my friends are handicapped also, but they don't harp on it. They manage. All you have to do is look around and there are plenty of nice GA rooms where people can socialize and enjoy life. I never said QUIT IMVU, I said if a room bothers them then go elsewhere, and if they opened a FREE guest account and don't like it, then don't buy in. I just find it interesting that now IMVU has given it back to SOME, that everyone else is complaining. You can have mine! I never in my entire time on imvu have even USED the slider. And BTW have never had any animation issues without it. My last comment on this slider bar that seems to be so important all of a sudden.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Locking since we have a new release out: 459.x.

You can continue the slider debate here.

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