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NinaJPanatti_disabled_464
Joined: 22 Jan 2010 Posts: 28 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:05 am Post subject: |
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IMVU THIEVES - ONCE AGAIN STEALING MORE CREDITS FROM THEIR CUSTOMERS, JUST HOW LOW ARE THEY GOING TO SINK NEXT ???? WHAT A RIP OFF COMPANY !!!! HOW DARE THEY SELL STUFF THEY KNOW DAMN WELL THAT THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE AWAY... I HATE YOU IMVU ... I HOPE YOUR COMPANY GOES BUST AND YOU ALL END UP JOBLESS.
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Kickapocan
Joined: 16 Feb 2009 Posts: 361 Location: USA - IL
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:10 am Post subject: WE PAY TO PLAY HERE ON IMVU |
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I should have read this thread last night. Sad I was just so tired of crashing I thought that had been the concentration, but guess not.
The 20 second policy on music is a farce, because IMVU speaks with a fork tongue. They give us this yaya about music rights and all that mess, that's why we can't play our mixes when we are alone in our rooms....that 2 or more must be in the room to play them, which is stupid, but the fact is, is we bought them fare and square. Yes with Credits and not cash in hand but Credits do amount to money at the end of the day, because when I send them money, I get credits in return to spend. So when I purchase something with credits, that's the same as paying out in cash, cause I just used up some of that money I just sent and they get to keep it. Which ultimately means, I should have every right to play my mixes while in my room alone. If Walmart had a point system where you could purchase something with points and you used your Credit Card to purchase these points, would Walmart have the right to come to your house and take the stereo that you purchased with your points, because you took it home and turned it on to play your favorite cd's because their policy may have said you can purchase a stereo with your points, but you can't turn it on? Remember you used points and a Credit Card, so it wasn't cash in hand. Same scenario, it amounts to cash at the end of the day.
As far as the trigger music, that was the alternative. We have been allowed to purchase these things with our credits aka money hidden behind credits, and now suddenly it became an issue. That's not even just. And as one said earlier on, we were able to find music we couldn't find in the IMVU store, why? because IMVU doesn't heed requests by valued customers.
Now the only thing I have ever requested regarding triggers was a volume button and or a way for a room owner to cut it off if its inappropriate.
Cutting off your nose to spite your face isn't a sound response.
Whatever happened to customer satisfaction? People pay money to play here.
Food for thought: IMVU supports developers? Have you thought about how many developers are going to lose out in sales because of this maneuver? |
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KENxxAUSTRALIA
Joined: 04 May 2008 Posts: 30 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:12 am Post subject: IMVU Rip off Fraud of trigger music |
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I have been buying legally thru the catalog for 3 years and have spent about 269,000 credits on trigger music and also bought music thru the music shop, it is an insult to say u will only pay for music bought after dec 2010, I purchased this music to use im my 2 clubs and now you have taken away the right for me to use them, I should be comphensated the full 269000 credits as they were bought legally and i might add they were bought with credits i paid for with Australian dollars too I might add so the music cost me concideratly more than if i was in the USA. I found the music from the music shop lags my room badly and also I dont have unlimited internet and the internet usage is high using shop music. Also a lot of my friends who come to the club cant hear the music from the music shop. I feel that IMVU has committed fraud by wiping out all the trigger music and not returning the dollars spent on them
If you were out on the street doing this the directors would be in jail now, and i'm not too sure wether they should be in jail also by committing internet fraud. you may want to make everything uniform in the catalog, and it seems like a good idea, but you dont *** on your customers doing it or defraud them out of 100s of dollars
and I do mean 100s these were bought by real Australian Dollars not play money, so thats why its fraud, you have sold an item and stolen it back without returning the purchase price.
I am asking for my money to be returned to me and at least then i can try and get some form of music for my virtual clubs.
So do the right thing, and it is a joke to ask us to list every piece of music i bought and the dates for a period of 3 years, the items are on your computer, you did the damage, you check and see what was bought, dont put the onus back on us for the fraud you committed in the first place |
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LordRiccardo
Joined: 30 Jan 2009 Posts: 13697 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Now the real food for thought the developers shouldn't of been uploading tunes they had no right to upload. They should of been honest and original in there so called creativity. But they wasn't just remember this one of these days all the D&G, Gucci, Nike, Addidas and the rest of the copyrighted material can go the same way. You want to argue with those companies be my guest you'll lose though. _________________
“We are masters of the unsaid words, but slaves of those we let slip out” |
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Zephyrine7
Joined: 01 Mar 2010 Posts: 379 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:20 am Post subject: Re: INDECENT |
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| oROBBYo wrote: | I think it is outrageous because we paid with our money the songs, if you have taken this decision at least has compensated those who've bought with the money, do something or continue to steal from everybody, we need to wake up .....
IMVU inc. thieves. |
If IMVU are thieves, who stole from the recording artists? who purchased those same stolen goods?
I agree IMVU should have done this ages ago...but whenever they did it there was bound to be an outcry from those who think they actually 'owned' pirate music
Until now the real losers have been the artists...perhaps now you might have an idea of how they felt when they lost money to the pirates _________________ Wagner is apparently better than he sounds |
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KissofDeath1981
Joined: 15 Mar 2009 Posts: 3 Location: USA - MA
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:21 am Post subject: Re: I shed no tears for you music thieves. |
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| DLovinT wrote: | | AryanMatrix wrote: | | DLovinT wrote: | | Bottom line is, it's not 100% IMVU's fault on this, the creators of the illegal music downloads have to take more responsibility regarding this as well. AND there isn't anyone on here that can say they weren't aware of the uproar regarding music dowloads when it's been up front and center in the news and advertising for many years. Oh IMVU, BITE ME for protecting the site that i have made my home in and BITE ME for protecting me from this. I sure in the Heck don't want to loose what I have here because of the morals and ethics that so many seem to place on the back burner. |
This is totally 100 % IMVU's fault. The catalog belongs to IMVU . People share their content to make profits. It doesn't mean IMVU should have allowed this 1st and later screw people by showing the so called TOS. Just because u have made ur so called 'Homes' here , doesn't mean you can show IMVU is not at complete fault which IT REALLY IS ! |
I agree that IMVU has messed up royally on this matter, there is no doubt about it but as Sikk reminded everyone earlier there is this little claus as the bottom of every catalog page "This product is provided by a third-party seller, DLovinT, who has warranted that they have all appropriate rights to any content involved. IMVU takes copyright infringment seriously. To learn more about our policy, including takedown procedures, please click here. For more on the IMVU Creator program, which lets you create items for sale in the IMVU catalog, please click here. " Have you read it, have you done the "click here" to learn more about what is allowed and not allowed, I highly doubt it.
Now, I will repeat, IMVU screwed up with how they have handled this over the years, so no i'm not defending them in anyway other than it's about time they did this BUT anyone that can say they are a true member of IMVU would have read the fine print and agreed to it or they wouldn't be here. Please, don't anyone point your finger at me to tell me I'm a prude or that I think I'm holier than thou, I'll laugh in your face as I'm so far from that it's not funny. |
If it was such a problem, IMVU should have taken the music rings out of the catalog. But they would rather have left them in there, and profited as long as possible off them before they did something about it. They have no problem removing a penis from the catalog and saying it's a breech of contract... Why wouldn't they do it for music? All I'm saying is I spent my last penny here. I may go on from time to time but I will NEVER buy credits and I will NEVER do another survey to help this company. I'm sorry to all developers that have worked so hard on their products only to have all their efforts shot to *** because in boycotting IMVU, you're boycotting the developers... Many of them are friends, and they don't deserve this. |
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Varsha IMVU Staff

Joined: 01 Feb 2010 Posts: 6350 Location: USA - CA
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Some of you have asked regarding credit refunds so I have updated my original post.
You can find the items you purchased after December 1st in your Credit Balance Log (under Account Settings - Order History section). Enter 2010-12-01 as the Begin Date to only show activity since December 1st.
To file a help ticket, you can click on the Help link found on all pages of our website in the upper right corner. Go to the Request Support tab to file a ticket.
Thank you. _________________ Varsha - Sr. Manager Community Experience |
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SinzAngelDarkstar
Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 2 Location: USA - FL
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:27 am Post subject: audio refunding |
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| ive been here since may of 2010 n most of mi music i purchased be dec. 1st and now i hear that that has no matter that were only gonna see wat was bought on or after dec. first theres alot of money down the drain now mi only reasons for staying r mi closest friends if it werent for them id deffinatly b gone theres alot of times i sit in mi room alone jus to listen to the music since u have to have ppl in the room for mixes n it hurts that that cant b enjoyed be more i understand there were rules ppl didnt follow wen creating it but i didnt know them wen purchasing the music or i wouldnt have bought ne of it if ur gonna refund for music it should b for all of it not jus 2 months worth of time |
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RawrInsanity
Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 2 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:31 am Post subject: |
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WELL CLEARLY YOU NEVER BOUGHT MUSIC OR RECEIVED ONE AS A GIFT.. OR PLAYED IT FOR THAT FACT... If you can say you didn't do either or these 3 things.. then i believe that you say.. either way though... imvu let people and also profitted from it... so.. what do you have to say now?
| LadyWallace wrote: | Lullabeye wrote:
Personally I think that when people bought that music, they should have considered the legalities of their purchases...
I think that the music rings, accessories, etc, should NOT be paid back, no matter the date of purchase...
Unless the item is clearly original music made by the person who made the item for sale. In which case a help file could easily be made for those. Surely IMVU can sort that out - there aren't THAT many out there.
The lost credits per song is punishment enough for the illegal purchases/copywrite, etc.
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Someone with a brain!
You realise we are in the minority here? |
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Kickapocan
Joined: 16 Feb 2009 Posts: 361 Location: USA - IL
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Discussion: Changes to Audio Products in Virtual Catalog |
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| Tymon wrote: | Announcement can be found here.
| varsha wrote: | In September 2008, we made an announcement regarding 3D audio products. All audio files submitted to IMVU’s virtual catalog were limited to 20 seconds of audio play. At that time, products already in the catalog prior to September 2008 were not affected.
Effective today, we are applying the 20 second limit to ALL audio products in the catalog. Products with audio clips will be limited to 20 seconds of audio no matter when they were added to the catalog. The 20-second limit applies per audio file, and, therefore, also per audio trigger.
Why are we making this change? We are making this change to make the policy consistent for the entire catalog.
Please note that audio players on homepage and products with streaming audio players are not affected by this change.
IMVU members have been purchasing audio products that were submitted to the catalog prior to September 2008. They can continue to use these products; however, the audio play will be limited to 20 seconds. We will issue full refunds for purchases of such products if the purchases were made on or after December 1, 2010. Please file a Help Center Case under the General Support category and include relevant information about the products that you purchased, including the product name and the date you purchased it. Our Customer Care & Education team will issue the credit refund to your account within 7-10 business days. The refunded credits will NOT be deducted from Creators who sold these products.
Thank you. |
Lovely. Just lovely. Thank you so very much for killing off literally all the entertaining songs that are not in your absolutely crappy music store. Appreciate it. The fun value of IMVU just went down the toilet. Thumbs up guys!
[Mod edit to add announcement as this post will be the first post in the discussion on this change once moved to its new location. ~ Min] |
I saw that sometime back, but this just drives home my point even more, they announce this is 2008, and continued to allow it, and now its 2011, and they are just NOW implementing it. Hmm It's a bit late in the day for that isn't it? |
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Cappy
Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 7596 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:38 am Post subject: |
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None of you bought that music LEGALLY.
Just because it's in the catalog, doesn't mean it's legal. Especially on a site with content uploaded by users. _________________
| AnakaTarren wrote: | | Safety message: Never take candy or gifts from strangers, especially if they are red-nosed, lemurs with Vixen written on their collars! |

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ruskygirl
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Russian Federation
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:39 am Post subject: |
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| IMVU is stealing money from us in my opinion. I do not recall a warning sign in the catologue stating items sold come with an expiration date. Plain and simple I have lost faith in what will happen to any items purchased from the IMVU catologue. I will not be buying future credits. Totally bad business ethics. |
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wiiing
Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 5335 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:39 am Post subject: |
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I am so glad that I have never purchased any pirate music rings because I have common sense and my mother taught me buying stolen goods = encouraging thieves to steal more  _________________
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Notorious
Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 18427 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:41 am Post subject: |
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I <3 this thread. _________________
I give up. Censorship is ridiculous. |
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Polystyrene
Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 20037 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:43 am Post subject: |
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| Notorious wrote: | | I <3 this thread. |
It has kept me entertained all day! _________________
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