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| SovietRathe wrote: | | Computer = my life, hey I didn't say I was dumb, I hope to make programming my future, but this top isnt about me, it's just the point IMVU is too damn expensive. people could buy REAL clothes for what they pay to buy 3d clothes.... |
Sorry to jump into the debate, but that just doesn't sound correct:
A randomly chosen IMVU male top priced at 660cr.
I went to a reseller and it told me 660cr is $0.61 USD.
I regularly shop at charity shops as I cannot afford to pay a lot of money on my clothes but even I have never seen a male top for sale at $0.61 USD (or the equivalent of, I'm in the UK and so I wouldn't see anything priced in $s  $0.61 USD would be about £0.31p GBP).
I heard Wal-Mart sold cheap clothes and all, but damn at $0.61 USD how can they even make a profit?
So I seriously doubt that the average clothing here on IMVU is more expensive than real life clothes. Don't get me wrong, there are tons of clothes very highly priced, but they are usually limited, exclusive, luxury products, most aren't priced more than real life clothing.
I understand it must suck like heck you cannot get a job to pay for stuff you enjoy and I'm sorry to be a right downer that may come across as uncaring, but IMVU is a luxury. It isn't needed, it is wanted. You can live without IMVU. You cannot live without stuff like food, water, a roof over your head and so on. When times get tough and money is tight, we all need to prioritise.
I had to cut back on a lot of stuff when the recession happened, I'm sure everyone did. IMVU isn't a handout centre, it isn't for those who cannot afford it, it is no different than any other luxury item you spend money on. I highly doubt you would email amazon.com and say "I'm sorry, I'm poor and I can't get a job, but I still want to buy stuff from your store. Please can you give me coupons to buy from you? Coupons that would pay for the whole item?" IMVU is like a store with products too, like amazon.com and yet you think one of them should give you "coupons" in the form of credits to keep on buying there.
When you look at your finances, you look what you can cut back on and you start with stuff that isn't needed, but wanted.
I'm sorry, I really am, but if I were in your shoes, I would walk away from IMVU until I had the money or I would just stick with what I've got and earn credits via offers and such. IMVU doesn't owe you anything. You may think it is a game, and it may be, but it is most certainty 100% a capitalist for-profit business, sure, it could be nicer to those less off, but it doesn't have to be and that is the wonders of capitalism.
Bottom line, if you didn't have money for a haircut, you wouldn't get one. If you didn't have money for the cinema, you wouldn't go. If you couldn't afford to have cable TV, you wouldn't keep paying for it. Why is it different when it comes to IMVU? You cannot afford it, so why the fight to it? Do you argue at the hairdressers? Accuse them of being too expensive when you cannot afford the haircut? Or do you understand, maybe have a small little whine to yourself about prices these days and walk on?
I just fail to see why most businesses out there are able to be too expensive for people on lower/no income without too much complaint but IMVU get people demanding to be cheaper when an average IMVU male top costs just $0.61 USD, how much cheaper do you want it to be? $0.30 USD? $0.10 USD?
Again, I am sorry that you're in this situation and I wish you all the best in programming and I hope you're able to turn that skill into a profession, but we live in a capitalist society and we have to deal with it. It's a real "take it or leave it" sort of place that owes you nothing. Sorry to sound mean, but I am just trying to be realistic.
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| SovietRathe wrote: | you obviously have no idea how much IMVU makes.
and you sound like a republican.
k I'm done talking to you. |
How much IMVU makes the took $40 million the year before last and finally made a profit. Having spent 4 years trading and making no profit what so ever. With a documented running cost in it's earliest days of spending $500,000 a month. Now lets see 6 years trading 6 years of finance loans backers and investors all that would need paying plus interest. Just how much profit do you think IMVU made considering the cost of the first four years cost IMVU over $24 million and they never made a cent??
Care to actually try again?
If IMVU dishes out to many free credits then IMVU will slip back into a none profit making company. Plain simple business fact thats seen hundreds of company fold and go under.
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| Quote: | | Everything that Qwerty said. |
Can her post be made into a sticky?
I'm a security guard in RL. You guys know them as "rent-a-cops" or "mall cops". (For the record, I work the concierge desk in a condominium, not a mall or bank.) Just how much do you think we make, really? I'm $11CDN (Canadian dollar) an hour! Wooo! Again for the record, our minimum wage is $10.50CDN. I make a whole 50 cents more than some people! Go meee! And before anyone says $10.50CDN an hour is a luxury, do some research into Canadian taxes and get back to me.
My point with waving my wannabe-copness around? Psst. Hey angry poor guy. I don't make much money either. Despite this, I manage to make do with IMVU as it is. Like others have said, I prioritize. "Hmm. Dinner, or a whack of IMVU credits? *hungry tummy noise* That settles it. Dinner." That was easy, wasn't it? Say it with me now. "Qwerty is right. IMVU is not a necessity. If I have to decide between buying more digital items I can't eat or wear in RL, versus buying actual food and clothing I can eat and wear in RL (and can feed to/dress the 3 other people I mentioned having to support), the RL food and clothing should win and I should be mature enough to accept this. As well, there's no way Wal-Mart would sell me a brand new shirt that NEVER stains, NEVER fades, NEVER rips or tears, and in fact, NEVER WEARS OUT IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER, EVER, for 61 cents."
There's another reason I mentioned being a security guard. Dude! We make more than minimum wage and by the looks of some of the other security guards I've been forced to work with, you don't need to be especially bright to get a job as one! Just ask me the stories of "Push the button." "What button?" "The one in front of you." "In front of me?" "Yes. The only button on the wall there." "Where?" "The wall." "What wall?" "THE ONE IN FRONT OF YOU!!@#$@#%#%$%^$%@!" Obviously you are smarter than that guy so you should get in with flying colours! And you know what I spend the majority of my work shift doing? Watching cameras, chatting to really nice residents, accepting offers of cookies and homemade treats from them on occasion, and READING A BOOK. So I get paid to socialize, get fed, and READ. (It's actually quite rare that something goes wrong, like a fire alarm or intruder. If you get more than one fire alarm a month or more than one intruder IN A YEAR, you're not working in a condo, you're working in a PRISON and mistook the inmate uniforms for the latest fashion trend.) Check your newspaper for security guard jobs. Those places are ALWAYS hiring. Turnover is high in the business because a lot of managers are jerks. The secret to survivng a jerk manager is don't do anything wrong and they're simply too busy to care enough to bother you again. Seriously. My manager really didn't like me, so I made sure he never had a reason to need to call or visit me on site (at the condo I'm assigned to).
And one more "for the record". You can tell me your town has no need for security guards so there are no companies/jobs for that, like you can tell me they also have no need for funeral homes so there aren't any. If you have a bank in your town, you have a security guard company. I've never seen a bank without some kind of security force.
See? A lesson on capitalism within IMVU and a free job just waiting to be applied for, all in one thread! You can't beat that, can you?
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Federal Minimum Wage in the US is $7.25 an hour.....not too many people want to work for that. Some states pay more, some less, but to afford to feed a family and meet their needs and try to use IMVU seems futile unless you wear the freebies they give when you join. Those have slipped over the last year or so, too.
But this should be about bringing back spin free. Why bother? We can't spend the predits anyhow since the almighty wanted Credits before Predits fiasco.
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| Guiscard wrote: | | the almighty wanted Credits before Predits fiasco. |
I don't know how much it was a "fiasco" in the end for the creators. They get the same amount of credits as before, but with less sales.
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Less promo sales.....and that can kill a little guy in Tiers. 
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| SovietRathe wrote: | | Shonen wrote: | Spin free was hardly used because they didn't really have it in plain sight anywhere. The only way most people knew about it was if they had been on imvu for a long time, or if someone told them about it.
That said, there are so many other ways that you can get predits these days. We don't need that returning and adding to the predit issue. In fact, it'd be nice to remove predits from the site altogether, in my opinion. |
Not all of us have rich parents..... |
I personally never use actual cash to buy credits because there are way too many ways to earn it...its not about having rich parents. I personally rather spend my money on other things. I spend crs like crazy and do so by earning them...
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| SovietRathe wrote: |
... I find that insulting as well.
I don't know where you live, but here in the usa companies aren't exactly begging for workers you know. plus you have no idea what things are like for other people so think before you speak.
all I implied was IMVU costs too much. and that's why they have a low popularity.
you say there's many ways to get free IMVU credits?
hmmm lets see:
playing with your pet! oh wow a whole 10 credits <_<
Watch a video! again, 10 whole credits!
Referrals! heh, how often does this happen?
Coupons! WOW 1k credits per sale.. gimme a break who's gonna spend $50 here unless their rich/parents pay for them
what do I consider rich?
hmmm... well considering you're talking to a guy who gets $1.1k a month and supports 3 people.. I think 3k a month is pretty damn good!
and the final one:
Complete offers! this is another way for IMVU to make money, plus very little offers are completely free, most require you to pay/provide credit card/provide mobile
my suggestion which I know will be ignored is for IMVU to take the less fortunate people into consideration and give better ways to earn credits... and whatever they are shouldn't have to earn IMVU money. you should be able to earn an unlimited amount of credits based on your dedication.
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LOL. How was ANYTHING I said insulting. The only thing you could have took as an insult was that I said you must be lazy. And apparently it's true if you don't want to do everything that is needed to be done to get free credits. And who cares if imvu gives out low amount of credits. because...
1. THEY ARE FREE YOU DO NOT PAY A DAMN DIME FOR THEM
2.If you wouldn't spend them right away and let them sit and build up then maybe you would actually get somewhere.
And for your information I live in the USA, just as you do, Pennsylvania to be exact and let me say that I know how bad the economy sucks, and it especially does in PA, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to get a job.
" gimme a break who's gonna spend $50 here unless their rich/parents pay for them" Again you with this "oh they or their parents are rich" bs.
Seriously just stop.
I have a question for you kid.
If it is so hard to get a job because you are uneducated.
Then tell me how it is even possible that you have a computer, how it is even possible that you have internet and how it is even possible that you have VIP. Because 1, if it is all from your parents, you have no right to even say "oh well everyone gets it from their rich parents" because the same thing applies to you. And if it is YOU who is paying for it all, then you STILL lose this battle because if you have the money to afford a computer, afford to pay an internet bill, and afford to pay imvu for VIP, then there is no way you have no money to buy creds.
And for the record. in regards to your original statement about imvu needing to lower their cost.. If imvu is too "expensive" for you, then just buy credits from a reseller. 5k is like $2, if you can't afford that, then wow.
You can pay $10 for VIP but you can't pay resellers to buy creds? I find that HIGHLY unlikely.
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bring back spinfree
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I would rather waist my time playing spin free
then potentially risk getting a virus from a predit sponsor.
I feel spin free is Much safer for minors also!
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I would also like to see Spin Free as a predit source instead of as-good-as-it-didn't-exist Peer Review. And there's too many traps in the offers.
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| LordRiccardo wrote: | | SovietRathe wrote: | you obviously have no idea how much IMVU makes.
and you sound like a republican.
k I'm done talking to you. |
How much IMVU makes the took $40 million the year before last and finally made a profit. Having spent 4 years trading and making no profit what so ever. With a documented running cost in it's earliest days of spending $500,000 a month. Now lets see 6 years trading 6 years of finance loans backers and investors all that would need paying plus interest. Just how much profit do you think IMVU made considering the cost of the first four years cost IMVU over $24 million and they never made a cent??
Care to actually try again?
If IMVU dishes out to many free credits then IMVU will slip back into a none profit making company. Plain simple business fact thats seen hundreds of company fold and go under. |
umm yeah, i hope u have a link to show prof of that statement. if not then dont go around acting like u know how imvu works |
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I miss Freespin alot. I like to cheer when I get credits from it, and it gives out credits LOL. I liked it alot cause I don't get any harmful crap on my computer when I want to download something from the survey panel page.
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