Creator issue: icon size

ZaraKaine · Joined: 26 Jun 2011 Posts: 5970 Location: United Kingdom

^ Absolutely correct on the .jpg versus .png issue ... I'm pretty sure most people haven't even heard of PNG-8 or Save For Web And Devices Laughing

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RinaFanel13 · Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 5715 Location: USA - CO

RinaFanel13 · Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 5715 Location: USA - CO

Right so update: still have found a way in CS5 to turn off that setting that auto adjusts.

@Diez, a join me session after finals and when I get to the computer again?
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Annleigh · Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 247 Location: USA - AR

When you go to re-size the image by choosing image>image size there is a box checked beside the words "Constrain Proportions" un-check it.

It is better to start off with the right proportions in the first place though because then you will not have any distortion when re-sizing. I cannot work with an image as small as 100x80, it hurts my eyes. I have a master catalog icon file that is 500x400. I just place my screenshot into it on a new layer and adjust it how I want it, then re-size it and save it as png. I also use the same file to make the larger images for posting in advertising threads and for my catalog pages.
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BabyAwesome · Joined: 13 May 2007 Posts: 2084 Location: USA

You seem to know alot already Rina Smile

I also work large and then resize. I use the "save for web" option in PS and select png 24.
I also save all of my product pages as png before I resize to fit the pages.
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mikeyvw · Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 2447 Location: USA - OR

Did you know the difference between a properly saved png and a properly saved jpeg cannot be detected by the naked eye? If you are using png you should mesh a microscope and send it to your customers. I use jpeg for textures, catalog pics, and icons. I use a grayscale jpeg for opacities.

ZaraKaine · Joined: 26 Jun 2011 Posts: 5970 Location: United Kingdom

RinaFanel13 · Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 5715 Location: USA - CO

Thanks! I can't work with the 100x80 either. I don't remember what size the *hiressnap and *hiresnobg save in. And my screen, despite the computer being great with handling everything else, sucks on screenies.

As for properly saved png vs jpg....I can tell the difference.

Since .jpgs are used for what we normally call "true color" because real life has more than just red, green, and blue colors are muted. You can also see more pixel bleed on a .jpg when you enlarge it. Older .jpg files also can have black lines or blur lines from the format being a lossy compression so eventual it can get more blurred or even lose pixel data.

PNG formats are made for monitors. Digital displays are generally RGB because they are the primary colors in light. Unlike art which are red blue and yellow. People back in the archaic days of tech used mostly CRT (cathode ray tubes) in monitors and television. It shot rays of red green and blue light at receptors. The principle still exists. Because unlike the human eye which can see different colors based on light in take, monitors use light. PNGs are made for red green blue color. They will be more vibrant on a monitor because it is easier for light displays.

Top that off, unlike the human eye, most cameras will degrade the color value. It again in the age of digital cameras, degrades further because of the same RGB principles, light is made of red green and blue. It is also why shadows are blue in white light. Not yellow or warm toned when using yellow light ( http://rianald.deviantart.com/art/Why-shadows-aren-t-gray-321656856?offset=30 )

Because of this PNGs do not lose color value and quality when compressed. They also blur a bit where edges in jpgs would normally bleed, and i think that is their different ways of blending for a smoother color transition.

At least that is how our art teacher explained it. There is also our science teacher who went into the physics of light, i simply applied both to my understandings.
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RinaFanel13 · Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 5715 Location: USA - CO

Well with the hair picture that's recent (See Midnight Korra, I haven't done any until I figure out how to resize better) I cropped it down to what I THOUGHT was the right size. It might have been to odd. I'll see what I can do to try it your way too.

I really do wish they would just take a smaller picture and maybe use a white background or resize it up. It would SAVE issues. That way you could do the 92x80 and not have to worry. They do it for Avatar photos.
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MrsLaceySong · Joined: 29 Oct 2009 Posts: 233 Location: USA - NC

SilkySweet · Joined: 16 Jun 2010 Posts: 231 Location: USA

[quote="DiezAre"]I just have a base photoshop file thats the correct size with a base that has all my little edits on it to make it look sorta interesting.

Same here. Layers that can be turned off and on depending on the item. Saves a ton of time and you can even do the animated icons in photoshop as well. Its such a neat program.
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FabyStyles · Joined: 30 Jun 2011 Posts: 202 Location: USA - MD

I would like to add that Sintek's Catalog Muse is excellent software (and it's free) before resize icon images was a horrible nightmare, now Catalog Muse makes it as easy as 123.
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EmpressAhinsaRahsha · Joined: 23 May 2012 Posts: 26 Location: USA - HI

Imvu should have a option when taking pics for it to be icon size just like they do for profile and room pics
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RinaFanel13 · Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 5715 Location: USA - CO