VIP/CREATING.

Mikanojo · Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 2953 Location: USA

I see no reason to argue with trolls about this.

The VIP does give people their name, and VIP had a long time running promotional for only 99 cents to start. Criminals were making use of that, spending 99 cents to get their name and then developing UFI content for the catalog.

With the 99 cent promotion ended, those same criminals must now spend 10USD instead of only 99 cents. ten times the cost now to get developer status, is a 10 times cost increase - consider that a no-brainer for most people.

IMVU grandfathered in the criminals along with the good developers too - as far as the future, the responsibility is entirely upon the DEVELOPER - if they choose to make UFI products then their future in IMVU is very much in question. But whose fault is that?

Personally if grandfathering were to stop tomorrow i would not mind it in the least - there are 8 million products in the catalog now.. mostly derivations.. the good developers who actually earn their living from developing legal products can afford the VIP already.. 10USD monthly or more often 25USD every 3 months is NOT going to seriously impact their profit margin.

The best solution to all of this is the one solution that IMVU is NOT going to make - IMVU should remove peer review and use there own CS people to pass or fail product submissions - but IMVU chooses to bear no responsibility for the content of their own catalog, so instead they have been involved in a long process of steps, all directed at the UFI product problem but each step only an inconvenience, and those steps affect all developers, not just the criminals.

That is the reality. That is why developing is now connected to the VIP - thank all of your criminal developers and IMVU-mafia members for the reasons it will now cost developers the price of the VIP subscription to develop in IMVU.

Complaining about it is pointless.. it was sadly a necessary step.

The very fact that this thread and similar complaint threads about VIP/developing exist is evidence that some people do not understand the actual reason for this.

So it really was not a no-brainer at all then.

So the people who did not understand before have a chance to understand now.

@ MicrophoneRain

i agree with you to a point, there is really more information about acceptable versus unacceptable content in the Virtual Goods Rating Policy.. but yes the TOS that we all agreed to when we joined really does have some wisdom there.. if only people would read it.

But criminals do not bother with the rules, their intentions are to exploit loopholes, and some of them are also here in the forums lobbying for less rules and whining about wanting X rated hard pixel penises. Rolling Eyes

Similarly the perverts are using the wrong part of their body to think with.. they are certainly not going to be making responsible adult decisions.

We need to remember that there are many edge products.. some developers intentionally push on the rules.. and some of those products that you would think would be UFI by their very nature, IMVU has allowed them to remain as they are for years now.

IMVU does need improving, there is no question of that.

If more people would take your advice, read the TOS and accept it, then there would be a LOT less troubles here Very Happy

This issue is really not worth continuing at this point. Some of us understand what happened and why, the trolls are going to argue and deny regardless. But life goes on for the rest of us.
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Arezeon · Joined: 06 Jan 2009 Posts: 5000 Location: India

Karliah · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:34 am Post subject:

Extinction · Joined: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 3114 Location: USA - MD

Yes, having to purchase VIP has decreased the creation of UFI products; however, it has in no way even touched bases with the problem.
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LordRiccardo · Joined: 30 Jan 2009 Posts: 13693 Location: United Kingdom

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Karenferndale · Joined: 07 May 2007 Posts: 11595 Location: Australia

I know there is no way to stop ufi completely, but you clearly stated that vip had decreased ufi content. I was asking if you had anything to back that up. Riccardo backed up his opposing your statement by showing his flagging of ufi content had not decreased, but in fact increased.

Personally, I think this thread has gotten off topic. She talked about how VIP and creating and how she thought it should be changed. The OP said nothing about smut, ufi whatever. The thread has gotten derailed by talks of ufi and how it is soooo linked to vip and how vip soo decreases it, which there is no evidence of that.

I agree with the OP in her original statement. Creating should not be just for vips. While grandfathering is still here, the true affects of this shortsighted change won't be seen. If grandfathering ever ended, the true ramifications would and it won't be pretty for the catalogue or devs.
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hoi · Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 2087 Location: Sweden

I agree.
What bugs me the most though is that we paid to be able to create, it should be permanent for us who bought our name when creating was included. Even those who never signed up for the creator program still paid to be able to create.
I consider this to be thievery, they're taking away something we paid for.
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PandaBomb · Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 679 Location: USA

I wish we could actually see real statistics of UFI content now and before the VIP change.

In my opinion, a company is a company. They don't actually owe us anything. I know they said buying our name would be enough and the fact that they went back on their word annoys me, but the reality of it is, they can do that. A company will do whatever it has to in order to stay afloat; layoffs, cheaper methods of productions, higher costs of subscriptions, etc. I got mad at first, but now I'm pretty apathetic about it. If grandfathering goes away, which it probably won't, then it just will. I'll pay monthly if necessary because I enjoy doing what I do, but that is just me. There are a few people that do take developing very seriously and use it as a source of income. Those people, I would assume, already have VIP for other reasons. The rest of us that do this as a hobby will just have to deal with it or leave.

Instead of being upset about it, why not try to make solutions around/with it? Perhaps IMVU should allow VIP to be purchased with credits as well for the people that do make good sales but don't have actual currency to buy it or for people in different countries that can't buy it at all.
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hoi · Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 2087 Location: Sweden