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DO U THINK ITS FAIR THAT PEOPLE THAT BUY FROM FILE SALES MAKE MORE MONEY AND HAVE HIGHER TEIR LEVELS
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b.NO
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c.MAYBE
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:32 am    Post subject: IS IT ME ?? Reply with quote

IT IS JUST ME OR.. DO U FIND IT UNFAIR THAT PEOPLE THAT BUY FROM FILE SALES.. AND SUBMIT THEM. THEY MAKE WAY MORE CREDITS AND HIGHER TIER LEVELS ON IMVU.. WITH ONLY 100 PRODUCTS.. I DON'T THINK ITS FAIR BECAUSE LIKE ME I WORK VERY HAD ON MY PRODUCTS. I TAKE TIME TO DO ALL THE WORK I HAVE.. I EVEN MAKE MY OWN TEXTURES FOR HAIR.. 100% MINE.. I JUST DON'T UNDER STAND HOW IMVU SITS BACK AND LETS THIS HAPPEN.. I KNOW THERE IS NO WAY TO WATCH OVER EVERY BODY AND THAT'S FINE.. BUT AT LEAST TRY TO PUT SOMETHING INTO PLAY.. I DON'T CARE ABOUT BEING PRO .. BUT I DO CARE THAT MY CREDIT LEVER NEVER PASSES 2K AND PEOPLE I KNOW THAT DEV FOR 3 OR 4 MONTHS CREDIT LEVELS ARE AT 20K OR BETTER.. CAN SOME 1 PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME.. OR AT LEAST TRY TO... THANKS



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really care that much if they do it or not, my goal to creating is to get good for my own work, not someone else's work. I don't mind if others do it even though it is not very professional and honest work and in the end you got your credits because of someone else instead of yourself.

Buying files is a pretty risky thing though because the files cost a lot and you can never know if you will actually earn that much off of the mesh. Sure, mass sale files are cheaper but they will also earn you less because a lot of other people have it, especially when they are texture files. but exclusive files are very expensive, I have seen some prices and a good room can be 150 000 credits and there is a big chance that you will not earn that money back, especially when you are not a very known developer.

The other risky thing about file sales is also that the person who sold you that file might have submitted the mesh file or used the texture file themselves previously in their own shop and after you pay them a lot of credits and submit your product with the file you bought the original maker of the file can easily file a DMCA against you with the proof that hey have the same file submitted earlier in their catalog. And then you will lose your credits and maybe even account.

I don't really mind if people do it really, it is their choice and even if I did dislike it there is nothing me or IMVU or anyone else could do to stop it but prefer when people do their work themselves and I find that kind of work to be a lot more valuable. And remember, just because some people buy files does not really mean they will earn from it much if at all, only might get up a few tier levels but that is the least important thing to creating in my eyes.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's any fun
I think it limits your profit margins if ALL you do is buy files
I think it has it's pros and cons

People are free to do as they want with their files, IMO
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jamo wrote:
I don't think it's any fun
I think it limits your profit margins if ALL you do is buy files
I think it has it's pros and cons

People are free to do as they want with their files, IMO


This.

I have bought files, mainly opacity maps to help with my creativity. I see no issue with that. I have bought a lot of files in the past and I don't use them as-is. I take them apart. Use this layer to help me do this, change this, stretch that. I use files to do things I can't. I think this is fair. I'm using my own initiative with these. It's not like I buy and upload. I use them as and when I need them. I don't see that as cheating or anything. I suppose it's stock ^^

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: IS IT ME ?? Reply with quote

JewelryB0xX wrote:
IT IS JUST ME OR.. DO U FIND IT UNFAIR THAT PEOPLE THAT BUY FROM FILE SALES.. AND SUBMIT THEM. THEY MAKE WAY MORE CREDITS AND HIGHER TIER LEVELS ON IMVU.. WITH ONLY 100 PRODUCTS.. I DON'T THINK ITS FAIR BECAUSE LIKE ME I WORK VERY HAD ON MY PRODUCTS. I TAKE TIME TO DO ALL THE WORK I HAVE.. I EVEN MAKE MY OWN TEXTURES FOR HAIR.. 100% MINE.. I JUST DON'T UNDER STAND HOW IMVU SITS BACK AND LETS THIS HAPPEN.. I KNOW THERE IS NO WAY TO WATCH OVER EVERY BODY AND THAT'S FINE.. BUT AT LEAST TRY TO PUT SOMETHING INTO PLAY.. I DON'T CARE ABOUT BEING PRO .. BUT I DO CARE THAT MY CREDIT LEVER NEVER PASSES 2K AND PEOPLE I KNOW THAT DEV FOR 3 OR 4 MONTHS CREDIT LEVELS ARE AT 20K OR BETTER.. CAN SOME 1 PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME.. OR AT LEAST TRY TO... THANKS



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When people legitimately purchase files, they are investing in their business. They are paying extra to do so, so yes it's fair.

Jamo wrote:
...I think it limits your profit margins if ALL you do is buy files
I think it has it's pros and cons

People are free to do as they want with their files, IMO


^I also agree with this.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seems you have 3 choices
1 you make your own files or textues and have the joy of pride in your work
2 you buy realy nice proven files or textures from a hard working file supplier who for a small fee will help you make your stuff wonderfull
3 google
As long as you dont rob the files or textures its all the same isnt it ?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: IS IT ME ?? Reply with quote

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JewelryB0xX wrote:
IT IS JUST ME OR.. DO U FIND IT UNFAIR THAT PEOPLE THAT BUY FROM FILE SALES.. AND SUBMIT THEM. THEY MAKE WAY MORE CREDITS AND HIGHER TIER LEVELS ON IMVU.. WITH ONLY 100 PRODUCTS.. I DON'T THINK ITS FAIR BECAUSE LIKE ME I WORK VERY HAD ON MY PRODUCTS. I TAKE TIME TO DO ALL THE WORK I HAVE.. I EVEN MAKE MY OWN TEXTURES FOR HAIR.. 100% MINE.. I JUST DON'T UNDER STAND HOW IMVU SITS BACK AND LETS THIS HAPPEN.. I KNOW THERE IS NO WAY TO WATCH OVER EVERY BODY AND THAT'S FINE.. BUT AT LEAST TRY TO PUT SOMETHING INTO PLAY.. I DON'T CARE ABOUT BEING PRO .. BUT I DO CARE THAT MY CREDIT LEVER NEVER PASSES 2K AND PEOPLE I KNOW THAT DEV FOR 3 OR 4 MONTHS CREDIT LEVELS ARE AT 20K OR BETTER.. CAN SOME 1 PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME.. OR AT LEAST TRY TO... THANKS



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When people legitimately purchase files, they are investing in their business. They are paying extra to do so, so yes it's fair.


i can agree a lil but yes they spend money to invest but.. when they put it in the catty and only have 2 pages and there are pro devs.. i dont understand that



Jamo wrote:
...I think it limits your profit margins if ALL you do is buy files
I think it has it's pros and cons

People are free to do as they want with their files, IMO


^I also agree with this.



i agree with this..
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing that bothers me about them is how people sell mass files and you end up with a bazillion copies of the same product in the catalogue.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polystyrene wrote:
The only thing that bothers me about them is how people sell mass files and you end up with a bazillion copies of the same product in the catalogue.

LOL XD
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polystyrene wrote:
The only thing that bothers me about them is how people sell mass files and you end up with a bazillion copies of the same product in the catalogue.


I don't like file sales because of this and because of the theft that is sometimes involved. When I first started taking dev'ing seriously, I bought some files to help me along. Like Abbreviate mentioned, I made adjustments to them, though. Most of them I don't even use anymore. Some have little parts of details I can add.

I think they're fine when they're helping you to work your way to learning. Otherwise, you're just a distributor. Putting out the same exact thing as 4 to 19 more people.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if developers like buying them i dont think all of you can say anything because i think alot on developers buy one or more files..
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think that buying files is the easy way out.. there is nothing that can be done about files.. but imvu is making it to easy.. and i think that's why a lot of people don't wanna create any more... Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polystyrene wrote:
The only thing that bothers me about them is how people sell mass files and you end up with a bazillion copies of the same product in the catalogue.


Not only that but when looking for derives you are not sure which are legit or just copy and bought files so it does make for a lot of copy cat derivables that fluctuate in derive and submit fees. Now I am very careful and have noticed a lot of this going on.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I generally won't buy something if I know they person just used a bought texture. I want to support creativity.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think that it is unfair, because the option is technically available to all of us.
I make my textures, and they usually take me a really long time. On top of being kind of slow, I also have kids and other life obligations outside of IMVU (like many others), so I can't just churn things out at lightning speed. Also, unlike many other creators, I don't really do a lot of recolors of the same item. I'm not saying that is the same as file sales, but as a result of all of these factors my catalog grows at a snail's pace.
Does that mean that I lose a competitive edge? Yes, probably. I'm not sure that it is unfair, though. Time is money, and if some people choose to invest more time or more money, and that helps them to get ahead, it would only be unfair if I were not allowed to do the same.
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