Demon Characters

RinaFanel13 · Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 5710 Location: USA - CO

Youkai. (Long o)

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Youkai

Yo u ka i.

*Learned that in Japanse class* Yokai is different. Like Yuki (Snow) vs. Yuuki (courage).

The English Phoentical is Yokai (With the long Vowel sign over it)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y%C5%8Dkai

ANYWAY Just pointing out the difference in Phonetically spelled foreign words >.> since it's...kinda important with Japanese. *Scratches head and gets back on topic* Hope the Links work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenshi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okami_%28disambiguation%29 (Too the person who spells it Ookami. OO is not a long O sound. O generally refers to Reverence. Osushi, Omizu, Ochya, It's also the FEMININE way of speaking. AND IT DOES NOT APPLY TO DEMONS. AT ALL. )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kami

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengu

And for those who think that Kitsune are Fox demons:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitsune

Again I hope these links help. They explain SOME of the Shinto beliefs. For that you seriously need to whip out the Shinto Priests. It's a very very old topic.
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Guest_JelianaBachelder · Joined: 30 Jul 2012 Posts: 28 Location: USA - WA

Huh... I never thought of Merlin as a demon at all.. interesting Razz

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Also, I've always been confused between "Yokai" and "Youkai" ... Youkai always looked more correct to me, but I see people use either or so I didn't really know.
I'll have to read these all later, though, lol. I just had a ton of coffee and now I'm all jittery and jumpy :b.
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RinaFanel13 · Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 5710 Location: USA - CO

CountVladDracula · Joined: 07 Oct 2010 Posts: 8152 Location: USA - NY

I think you may want to take on Wikipedia about this or at least perhaps add something about the phonetics. It's seriously lacking on the pronunciation part.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y%C5%8Dkai

And a small correction about my own post on page 1. I don't know how to type the ō without copying and pasting to get the line over it. So I meant no disrespect when I said Yokai when, if I hadn't been lazy, it would have been Yōkai.

I have similar issues with Târgoviște / Tîrgoviște which was the capital of the historical Dracula's territory in the fifteenth century. I have trouble typing those particular linguistic symbols so I'll either copy and paste or leave them off entirely which changes the word from what it should be but most people don't notice.
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RinaFanel13 · Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 5710 Location: USA - CO

It's why I posted the Touhou Wiki. It has the proper.

And Wiki is English based. It has the vowel marker. So it's fine. It's really not that much of a bother. I could just throw my Nakama books at them. But eh. An American wouldn't get the phonetic system not as well as just using the vowel markers. Eh and no worries. I thought it would be nice to clarify. Some people really do get confused seeing Youkai and Yōkai.

I find typing in word helps.

ANYWAY...references....ummmm I couldn't find the Sumerian report I did. *Lost her research* SO I might need to go googling. If someone beats me to it that would be awesome.
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563097 · Joined: 20 Apr 2009 Posts: 397 Location: USA - MS

When I was saying 'demon', I meant the demons who reside in Hell or the underworld as some would call it.

@JelianaBachelder

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He never claimed he used the Christian definition for a demon; though if he did, then this would be understandable why people would get angry, but that's not the case. He just said "demon". There's too many types of demons in different religions, stories, folklore, ect, to really give them a specific set of traits.

I haven't based my demon entirely from Christian lore. I meant that people get the impression that Deida, my demon, is the server of Hell or whatever you want to call it. I just hate that people think everything should be literal with a character. I've received it many times when trying to join roleplays, but to be denied because my character is a demon and 'evil'.

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Some are evil, some aren't.

Deida is good, but he considers himself evil only when taking a human life for food. Others who come across him are frightened of him since his kind has such a back history of evil, hatred, and other things.

@CountVladDracula

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In fact Merlin in the King Arthur stories is said to be half-demon, a Cambion, as one of his parents was an incubus.

Hmm, I guess I learn some interesting everyday. XD

@rubytuesdayhr

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If it's not a demon then don't call it a demon, but something else. Now if the word 'demon' comes from a Christian context,, then canon is to stick to that,, just as if you say you are a vampire then canon is what veampires usually are. If you are not dead, suck blood, etc, then perhaps you shouldn't use the word vampire to describe yourself.

Doing this, in no offence to anyone, is boring and unoriginal. I find it very hard to canon a race of person point on, so I don't with Deida.

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I hate it when someone uses a canon word that has definite traits in a new and uniuq way and then acts all upset when it's drawn to their attention that if you don't look like a duck, walk like a ducka nd talk like a duck then perhaps you're not a duck.

I disagree with this. Once again, I'll point out that I'm not using a canon character. Many vampires on IMVU aren't canon characters, so I suppose you hate them? Perhaps widen your p.o.v on this and see what originality truly means.

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Yes, yes. That is exactly what I mean, Rina. Tengu, tenshi, kappa, oni are all on different ends of the spectrum between good and evil. Not to bring up a religious debate or anything since this is purely about fantasy but I agree wholly that the Christian definition for demons is too black and white for multiverse role-playing. Heck, even the word makes me roll my eyes. Such negative connotations... Not to say people CAN'T play Christian demons (even though many demons of Christianity are born from other spiritualities... Ba'al, anyone?), just don't let them force their definition down your or anyone else's throats.

I hate when people try to shove it down my throat, and yes, it's very black and white in Christianity.

I wonder how this topic has gotten to the pronunciation of Japanese words...xD
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RinaFanel13 · Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 5710 Location: USA - CO

@ The Pronunciation thing, because Japanese is a language based on phonetics. Yokai could mean something awful >.< And I'd hate for Japanese curse words to get tossed around *FLAIL*

So to be careful I always tell people to just use the Youkai spelling, not the long o vowel marker *FLAILS MORE* I DUN WANNA BE SAYING SOMETHING LIKE YOUR GRANDMOTHER IS A COW IN JAPANESEEEEEEE!!!!

ON TOPIC:

Try looking into some of the Fey lore? Unseelie and stuff.

AND YES! I FOUND A FREAKING LINK!

http://www.mindspring.com/~mysticgryphon/demon.htm

BOOSH BISH!
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EricThorsen · Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 114 Location: USA

Perhaps the reluctance with demons comes from the fact that there are so many demon players who use being a demon as a license to god-mod for they don't as the originator of this thread fill out their individual lore. Also there are tons of people who think a demon can just walk in in demon form and people won't object...cause yeah that happens every day. Again demon characters that are played by idiots spoil things for everyone else. I might even venture that the majority of demon players in my experience just use their demons to sprout powers every time they fart practically. And they are always invincible and never discreet, and honestly they are boorish.

CountVladDracula · Joined: 07 Oct 2010 Posts: 8152 Location: USA - NY

EricThorsen · Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 114 Location: USA

"But she's a succubus. Succubi aren't discrete." [/quote]

They so need to read fiction that employes succubae like Dresden's Lara Raith. I think Lara would disagree with the succubus in question. Then Lara would probably have her killed...discreetly.

CountVladDracula · Joined: 07 Oct 2010 Posts: 8152 Location: USA - NY