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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the "good sport" spirit of rp the people involved don' t 'godmod', meaning they don't insist that everything go their way all the time, and yet there are limits to how much a rp'er must put up with. The rp direction and story development must be consensual, and if a person does not want to participate in a story development that s/he objects to then they can opt out of it. I usuallly plan in OOC with the other participants how the general story is going to go and we come to consensus before doing it. If I don't want my mind read, I can object to that. If I do'nt want to be killed then I can object to that. If someone doesn't want me in their rp they can tell me to leave the rp, and not carry it into the IC of killing me.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed.

1. You do NOT have to accept an RP kill. IMVU moderators on the forums have said this as well as staff. If someone kills your character in their game, that's their business and their room and so be it BUT you CAN take the character into other games and other RPs and keep them in your own RP. If anyone tells you otherwise you can report them for harassment. Not all RP is set n the same reality. The continuities don't have to mesh even if it's an "Open" room, or "Open Multiverse," despite what some newer players have started claiming.

2. You especially do NOT have to change your avatar name if your character is killed. That is a definite violation of TOS as confirmed by both staff and moderators.

3. Not all Role playing games are universal. Not every room follows the same rules or has the same continuity. Dungeons and Dragons, Rhydin, VtM, WoD and Dresden Fiels don't all follow the same rules with powers, dice, or fighting methods. One might use Fate points and FUDGE dice while another might use ten sided dice, one might use ordinary six sided dice while another room uses T1. Different rules, different realities. They do NOT have to interconnect. No matter what anyone says, a death in one room does not automatically mean you have to kill your character everywhere. IMVU moderators have already confirmed this. Even if you're killed in an "open" room as some are calling it now you do NOT have to accept the death in every room you play in and not every room has to honor that death.

4. Any character that is killed can be resurrected somehow. Characters can be raised from the dead or come back as ghosts or be reincarnated. So long as you're creative there is a way back and anyone who can "destroy your soul" is questionably God moding.

5. There's also the concept of null and void, to undo a bad or God moded game event.

6. If you kill a character in your room you have the right to boot or block that person from your room if they continue to play that character and you do not wish them to do so.

7. You cannot force that player to make that character dead in every single game they play in even if it is an open / Multiverse RP room. You cannot enforce your own idea of RP rules in every single RP room.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you wish to discuss this more please do so here. The want ads sticky is for want ads only. No need to clutter it up with chatter when we all have a whole forum to use.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vlad... I just want to say... I like you... because we seem to have a similar amount of knowledge of role playing games.

ANYWAY. On-topic. I have never come across anything like this before. Does anyone have any first-hand experience regarding character death and being harassed to close their own account?
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MeZergy wrote:
Vlad... I just want to say... I like you... because we seem to have a similar amount of knowledge of role playing games.

ANYWAY. On-topic. I have never come across anything like this before. Does anyone have any first-hand experience regarding character death and being harassed to close their own account?


It actually came up here in the forums when this section was first created. Someone came here to ask if they had to change their account because they were killed, we told them no. Then the one who did the killing showed up and tried to explain why it was absolutely necessary for the person to change their screen name and how since it was a multiverse room they need to be dead in EVERY RP.

It's been removed but there was a post recently in the Want Ads where someone asked for a hit on a screen name, not a character, but a screen name, and offered real credits if they could kill the person's character and get them removed from IMVU...
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not been directly involved in a situation like this, but being around it enough to say it happens quite a bit. Some people don't care about changing their names (I have a few times but not for reasons like this), but some cannot afford it. And I have seen people harassed, even stalked into my rooms because they were supposedly "dead" and I was threatened on several occasions to have my rp considered void if I recognized this person in my rp. I just laughed at them for being much like little kids on a playground and booted them. I have said I choose not to recognize their rp and aside from that I don't have dealings with them. Its really the best way to handle it IMO.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ElesabethBathory wrote:
I have not been directly involved in a situation like this, but being around it enough to say it happens quite a bit. Some people don't care about changing their names (I have a few times but not for reasons like this), but some cannot afford it. And I have seen people harassed, even stalked into my rooms because they were supposedly "dead" and I was threatened on several occasions to have my rp considered void if I recognized this person in my rp. I just laughed at them for being much like little kids on a playground and booted them. I have said I choose not to recognize their rp and aside from that I don't have dealings with them. Its really the best way to handle it IMO.


Same here. Someone tried ordering my friend not to consider their rooms multi-verse if I allow someone in who was killed in another multiverse room because that means they're supposed to be dead in all multiverse games.

And yes, I've been threatened for not forcing someone to make their character dead in my game. It's MY game, it's a different reality than yours. Their characters are alive in my game, period. I will not do that to someone.

And considering my screen name (which I was giddy with delight to get) do you know how many people have tried to kill my character and or sent an assassin after me just to 1. Say they killed Dracula or 2. Try to force me to give up the name because they want it. I've even gotten harassing private messages saying that my screen name was likely to offend Romanians so I should change it at once! Yeah, okay... Go tell that to Bram Stoker. Oh, wait, no, he died a century ago. Sorry.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL you too? I had some weird non-rp'er come in and give me all this crud for using the name Bathory because supposedly he is a decendant of the real life Dracula and Countess Bathory. I'm a history buff, so I was pretty stoked to get this name (its one of the spellings of the Countess Bathory's name). I think its a shame that the bad apples have to try and ruin it for us who love the thrill of writing a character and playing it out.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone once sent me a message saying I clearly know nothing about history (based on my screen name). Here's what I said back to them, more or less...

Vladislaus Drakulya (Vlad the third of Wallachia) was a real person. He was not actually a count. He was a prince. He was born in 1431 and died in 1476 roughly around the age of forty five. Wallachia is a region of Romania directly under Transylvania (the region where he was born). Though he did not really become a vampire the implication in the fictional Dracula novel by Bram Stoker (published in 1897) is that the historical figure came back as a vampire.

The name Dracula comes from Dracul which is derived from the Latin Draco (meaning dragon). In modern Romanian Dracul means Devil but in the fifteenth century it meant dragon. Dracula's father was a member of the knightly order of the dragon and called himself Dracul (Dragon). The "A" at the end of Dracula means that he is "the son of the dragon." Almost seventy five years after he died he was posthumously named Vlad Tepes (meaning The Impaler) because his favorite method of executing his enemies was to impale them on long spikes. He was never actually called "The impaler" or Tepes within his lifetime. He signed his name as Wladislaus Dragwlya (Angloized to Vladislaus Dracula).

Though turning the historical figure into a vampire is only the work of Bram Stoker's imagination, when anthropologists opened his place of burial in 1931 (the very year the Bela Lugosi Dracula film was made and exactly five hundred years after Dracula's birth) they found it empty.

According to The History channel the local people around the castle had, in recent years, heard strange noises and seen strange lights up in the castle so they sent some priests up to bless the place. Strangely as they neared the castle a terrible storm held them back so they had to do the blessing from a distance. Manipulating the weather is supposed to be one of the fictional vampire's powers.

Also Count would have been the "modern" (late nineteenth century) equivalent of ruling a small Principality territory, it would be a county.

I've even tried to console them that though the historical figure is not a vampire the vampiric fiction that the historical figure became a vampire isn't all bad, in many versions the character is sympathetic or even heroic like the 1992 movie starring Gary Oldman or the anime Hellsing (Okay, so he's kind of crazy in that one), Love at first bite, or Fred Saberhagen's Dracula books or the film Dracula: The Dark Prince where he's both the historical figure and the vampire but he's not evil incarnate but actually a very noble (though violent and hot tempered) character.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Role-play kills I don't think are just and fair. They boot you and then they send you a message that you have been killed off cause you left. I don't care about changing my name cause that cost money. I don't go on here to spend money just cause some person said I had too. People who are low on money get bullied a lot cause of this. In all due respect to the other person I only do a kill in my Role-play and it wont effect there standing on other role-plays. but I may be on a rant here but I have to say something before someone buys another name just cause they got killed in a role-play but some person that may or may not be a newbie.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Role-play kills I don't think are just and fair. They boot you and then they send you a message that you have been killed off cause you left. I don't care about changing my name cause that cost money. I don't go on here to spend money just cause some person said I had too. People who are low on money get bullied a lot cause of this. In all due respect to the other person I only do a kill in my Role-play and it wont effect there standing on other role-plays. but I may be on a rant here but I have to say something before someone buys another name just cause they got killed in a role-play but some person that may or may not be a newbie.


There's also a great deal of egotism and game wrecking with these "kills" for example I have witnessed elaborate descriptions of soul "destroying" or "soul eating" so that there's no way the person can ever, ever resurrect their character even by the strangest / most obscure magick. WHY go to that extreme?! Who does that?! If they want to possibly bring their character back later why go to extremely OOCly in order to sabotage it? What is the point except to be OOCly malicious? Honestly, let's face it, realistically most people aren't going to go "I'd better destroy his soul just in case he knows a powerful necromancer."
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