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GibbertjeDeWolf
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| Guest_MenacesMagenta wrote: |
If I found one of those rooms that actually did rp plots and characters though Magenta and Minax might fit, and that's the scary part. @_@ |
Why scary? If these characters are important to you, wouldn't it be better to buy AP and find a different set of folks to RP with than just abandon them to the dustbin of history on someone else's say-so 
| Quote: | | I'm especially concerned because it's my ambition to become a published author, and I want to not suck. |
Having critics doesn't mean you suck ...
| Quote: | So even if I retire Minax/Magenta as imvu rp characters, I want to know how to fix them so their story doesn't come off the way that rp came off. I'm aiming for the "Arnold and Helga" type relationship.
If it helps any, the story is primarily from Minax's point of view (third person limited) because I realized that when I wrote it from Magenta's it DID sound like he was abusing and manipulating her. I needed to show HIS thoughts instead because he loved her all along but was too concerned for his status as evil that he would never admit it, among other reasons. Telling it as Magenta's story makes it come off as "girl stays with abusive boyfriend until he eventually changes" (bad message) while telling it as Minax's makes it "guy concealing his feelings finally learns to be true to himself and others" (good message) so yeah. |
You might find it useful to switch back and forth between their perspectives from chapter to chapter. Make it clear that Magenta has intuited Minax's feelings and then confirm those feelings when writing from Minax's perspective. That might work ... or it might not. Some people will be offended all the same.
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CountVladDracula 
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| Jaelie1990 wrote: |
You might find it useful to switch back and forth between their perspectives from chapter to chapter. Make it clear that Magenta has intuited Minax's feelings and then confirm those feelings when writing from Minax's perspective. That might work ... or it might not. Some people will be offended all the same. |
I could be wrong but I think of Minax's more positive feelings were a little more obvious it might have improved things a bit.
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MenacesMagenta
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| CountVladDracula wrote: | | Jaelie1990 wrote: |
You might find it useful to switch back and forth between their perspectives from chapter to chapter. Make it clear that Magenta has intuited Minax's feelings and then confirm those feelings when writing from Minax's perspective. That might work ... or it might not. Some people will be offended all the same. |
I could be wrong but I think of Minax's more positive feelings were a little more obvious it might have improved things a bit. |
I was thinking that, and also if Minax was female and Magenta was male it might cut it a bit too. In fact, girl!Minax sounds really fun, even if I almost entirely cut Magenta from the equation. Do you think I could bring in a female version of Minax or have I already made him so hated that I need to scrap him as far as this goes? o.O
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CountVladDracula
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know if the gender with effect things much. But I have nothing against you trying it.
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EtherialNeko
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:05 am Post subject: |
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| -Has no idea what's going on- ^-^ |
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CountVladDracula
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| EtherialNeko wrote: | | -Has no idea what's going on- ^-^ |
Magenta brought her two characters into my Vintage village that I run on DarklingMagick. A few of the regulars got a little upset because it seemed to them that the characters were humorizing / glorifying a highly abusive relationship and it made some of them uncomfortable. Before I could clear things up (I was AFK as this happened) Magenta had already left the room and everyone was angry or upset.
I'd seen Magenta's characters before but I think this time something came out very wrong and it turned into a large misunderstanding.
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rubytuesdayhr
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know what the specific situation was, but I do agree that some things that are offensive in GA settings are acceptable in AP settings. It sounds like you got into a deep psychological thing, and that can be just too heavy for a lot of people to want to handle either GA or AP because it's a kind of fiction that is not escaptist but confronts us with some things that fiction says better than facts to communicate certain truths,, and it seems you were confronting people with issues they didn't want to be confronted with.
When I participate in any rp, I try to get a sense of what is going on, and I ask OOC about the perameters of the story they are doing, and occassionally touch base with the other rp'ers to keep things going in a direction that is agreeable to all. There are rp'ers that get into more dark play than others, and it's necessary to know what 'limits' the other rp'ers have in this. Also GA is GA for a reason, and it sounds like you were bordering.
thanks for the link to some interesting rp concepts. |
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