Knock Knock!!!! Room Entry

Jagged · Joined: 23 Jun 2010 Posts: 812

I would love that option.
Trouble is, usually, when imvu fix something, they have to break something else. You know, to keep the balance. We can't have everything too perfect...
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RinaFanel13 · Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 5565 Location: USA - CO

Claw2122 · Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 153 Location: USA - PA

"Would you be upset that you have to wait a few seconds until the room owner accepts or denies your entry? Or without public request would you be upset that you entered a room and get an instant boot?"

But according to your own statements you boot 20-30 a day anyways. And that's after what a 5 minute entrance rate before deciding the person needs to be booted. Is it really worth it to wait a few seconds to be allowed entrance to a room you may have never been in yet, only to be booted by you or whoever is in charge of the room at that particular moment for just about any perceived infraction by the owner/mods.

You're going to boot them anyway, why make them go through a hoop to be booted in the end. It's just humiliating to them and a slight ego boot to the booter for having the power to make others go through hoops before getting booted. It's how I see it.
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XxMissSnowyxX · Joined: 24 Mar 2010 Posts: 2235 Location: Antarctica

Claw2122 · Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 153 Location: USA - PA

How is it a good intention to have people request entrance to a room they've never been in only to be booted because of a bad mood from the owner or whatever the circumstance may be? You can already do that without the need to have people request entrance into a room. I didn't contradict myself in two threads we already have the boot button and the ability to block repeat offenders and I'm sure the OP is well aware of that. Asking for a way to make any room a virtual nightclub where you have to get pass a "bouncer" the first time is pretty much to me a very passive discriminatory technique played up as a security feature.

As a former Rp'er yes I understand the risk of public RP but like I said in the other thread you do it in public you roll with the punches you get when doing it in public. I have some very fond memories of clueless people wandering in and actually enjoying the show whether warranted or not.

Hypothetically lets say most casual IMVU users go in about 5-10 different rooms a night. it would take at least 5 repeat visits to get down the room rules if you intend to go back regularly and multiply room rules by how many regular rooms u visit there's bound to be a slip up every now and then. That's just casual rooms not RP rooms where different standards apply to each room based on whatever code they go by. And most people don't recognize the abbreviations to start with.

It doesn't warrant 1. a request to go into a room that may/may not be approved depending on how busy the owner/mods may be at the time (OP hasn't stated whether there's a waiting period like a private invite that will time out or anything.) That just discourages people. And 2. a boot after being "granted entrance" into the room as it's just added insult to injury if the infraction is smaller then harassment.

Nothing personal to anyone, but if i have to request entrance to a room and not pass standards once in and get booted then you're not really someone I would like to befriend at any rate. Just because a set of people in a room can grant entrance to anyone on a whim through this idea doesn't make them a higher caliber of people then people in standard open rooms. Like the saying goes you go to heaven for the scenery and you go to hell for the company.
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RinaFanel13 · Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 5565 Location: USA - CO

I think the "good intention" is that in prevents people who are in a bad mood from booting you, by just giving them the option to deny you entrance.

Claw I can see you point, but MissSnowy already stated, it has a good intention, but it would be highly abused. She already addressed the same points you are making. People abuse everything.

Top that off it's not necessary for the room furniture hiding function. While I would appreciate the idea for the same good intention MissSnowy pointed out, I don't agree with the implementation of it.

I would rather that before entering a room the person is immune to booting for maybe the first 2 minutes (average loading time for me.) So that way the mod's actually have to talk to the person or ask them to leave, but that's not happening either, because it would be again, abused.

IllusiveJack · Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Posts: 98 Location: United Kingdom

lapfox · Joined: 12 Feb 2011 Posts: 952 Location: Netherlands

i will never suport this idea. why you ask?

their is a reason you can be in private rooms / chats. if you want to seperate your family so badly from everyone else, invite them to a private room.

dont want to invite? create a room that you can only enter from a link, and post it on pulse (make shure your pulse can only be readed by friends)

a 'knock knock can i come in please' option? no thanks, i am afraid this will be used WAY TO MUCH. people are already building walls all around themself, and its hard to meet new cool people already. this wont help

EverEpic · Joined: 13 Jun 2010 Posts: 428 Location: Antarctica

Calypsio · Joined: 15 May 2010 Posts: 950 Location: Ireland

The only way I will support this, is if IMVU shows the kb's of the person requesting to join. If they're over the room descriptions limit, no entry for them. It can help to stop room crashing.
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Claw2122 · Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 153 Location: USA - PA

Adiraron · Joined: 12 Mar 2012 Posts: 9 Location: Germany

We deff need it, a lot of noobs come into my hospital and my house...At my hospital I'd look at their profile and if they are new I wouldn't allow, if they came to my house deff boot. Only my family can come to that. XD It's very awkward when we're in the middle of a family dinner or we're hanging out in the pool and 20 people come in and they want to join us...I mean like forreal? The worst one so far has been this lady who said she was one of my kids mom's then she tried to take over my house, I boot but they still come back, and yes I have blocked some but it seems the noob's just make new accounts. :/

NanethielLanthir · Joined: 16 Aug 2010 Posts: 82 Location: USA - CO

XxMissSnowyxX · Joined: 24 Mar 2010 Posts: 2235 Location: Antarctica

This whole idea still just confuses me @.@

I think the biggest thing that has confused me is; that the words "Public Place" have somehow lost their meaning.

Lest we all forget, when we create a room the first option of the room is?? ~Drum Roll~ Public.

But, just in case people have forgotten the definition of a "Public Place" I did a little bit of research and did the leg work for you.

Public Place Definition - A public space is a social space such as a town square that is open and accessible to all, regardless of gender, race, ethnicity, age or socio-economic level.

So with that in mind, lets look at some of the other Options that are allowed when making Scene on IMVU.

Open - This setting allows people to have a room that is accessible via a Link, Portal, or Invite. Does not show up on the Room Search.

Wait!! Link, Portal, or Invite.

If someone needs to have one of these to get into a room, IMVU has already given us the tools that we need so we don't have random people coming into our room without our permission.

I do believe someone did mention these concern."

"What if the link is given out to someone and there is a falling out?"

Simple answer comes to mind; If you look at this idea, the Owner or Mod would have to spend a second to click "No Entry". Or this idea can be already done by going into the Manage Room Tab and just changing 1 single letter in the Room Name.

It's amazing how something as simple as a room named "My Home" and any product that might be a portal can become rendered obsolete by changing the name to "My H0me"

I think Claw said it best on their other post - Roll with the punches and use the tools that are already available to you, even if it wasn't directly related to this topic. But is a great point that I think people should really take into consideration.
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hoi · Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 2087 Location: Sweden